Could Americium-241 be used from an old smoke detector since it emits both 
Alpha and low level Gamma?

Kent Stevens


> On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:45 AM, NeonJohn <j...@neon-john.com> wrote:
> 
> Those UV LEDs generate a LOT of UV.  I use one as a color tester for my
> neon shop (most colors of neon tubing look white when off).  Glad you
> didn't hurt your eyes.  Problem is, the glass is opaque to UV.
> 
> If you don't mind spending the money you can reactivate the tubes.  One
> can buy a microcurie of Cs-137 without a license.  It can be had epoxied
> to the head of a pin.  1uCi is more than enough to strike a couple of
> tubes.  Position the source in an inconspicuous place between two tubes
> and it'll work for both of them.  Cs-137 emits a good healthy 661keV
> gamma ray that will easily penetrate the glass and cause bunches of
> secondary electrons.
> 
> I just tried this using a 30 year old source (down to half a uCi) on a
> flickering neon bulb on some old test equipment.  I just held the source
> against the plastic lens and the lamp glow went steady.
> 
> The only downside is that a pin source will run you about $60.  If
> anyone is interested in this route, I'll dig up some names of some
> suppliers.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On 02/10/2014 05:10 AM, Nick wrote:
>> Some time ago I was playing with XC18s (bought a large number many years 
>> ago when they were very cheap) - they have a similar problem so I 
>> experimented with uranium marbles and UV LEDs...
>> 
>> I wasn't very "quantitative", but from a qualitative standpoint, the 
>> marbles made no difference and at that time so-called "UV" LEDs didn't seem 
>> to have much UV content - more just purple...
>> 
>> Maybe things have improved since then and UV LEDs are a possible answer. 
>> All you need is a good source of high energy photons to initiate 
>> ionisation...
>> 
>> Nick
> 
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