Tony,

Find all this interestingly humorous ............ Karens remark was a quote by 
Kathy Acker.

Initially wondered tongue in cheek which country was Kathy Acker referring 
to.......!


>>>>>> "One of the reasons I think the ultra right-wing has such power in this 
>>>>>> country is that no one talks out."
>>>>>> Kathy Acker. ______________________________________________

Martin.

On 11 Feb 2010, at 22:16, Antonio Dias wrote:

> matin,
> 
> That's all correct.  My comments were in response to my perception of an 
> oversimplification in your "suggestion…" to Karen.
> 
> The "ownership" we deal with here, "somewhere on the ethernet," is a fragile 
> space where there is a modicum of freedom tempered by the broad yet shallow 
> reach voices like any of ours have here in comparison with what passes for 
> public discourse.  This is the dynamic we struggle within.  
> 
> I can't  think of a better place to be, or I'd be there instead!
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> Antonio Dias:
> http://antoniodiasadw.wordpress.com/
> 
> Horizons of Significance: 
> http://horizonsofsignificance.wordpress.com/
> 
> Fine Lines
> http://finelinesamatterofdistinction.wordpress.com
> 
> 
> On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:56 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
> 
>> Tony.
>> 
>> Control, prejudice, ignorance and ideology are often used to 'control free 
>> speech', one of the restricting tools used is idea 'ownership' which can 
>> take on many slippery meanings like money, power and copyright, this email 
>> conversation structure has ownership but who might be defined as the owner 
>> is somewhere in the ethernet....................
>> 
>> Martin.
>> 
>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 19:28, Antonio Dias wrote:
>> 
>>> Martin,
>>> 
>>> it's not my presumption that keeps you from being heard, but the 
>>> "ownership" of "free speech."
>>> 
>>> Tony
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Antonio Dias:
>>> http://antoniodiasadw.wordpress.com/
>>> 
>>> Horizons of Significance: 
>>> http://horizonsofsignificance.wordpress.com/
>>> 
>>> Fine Lines
>>> http://finelinesamatterofdistinction.wordpress.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:18 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But ........ nobody owns my spoken words only your presumption.
>>>> 
>>>> Martin.
>>>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 19:12, Antonio Dias wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Martin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Outside of places like this list free speech equals money.  That's what 
>>>>> the Right has.  Owning speech, what a thought!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Antonio Dias:
>>>>> http://antoniodiasadw.wordpress.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Horizons of Significance: 
>>>>> http://horizonsofsignificance.wordpress.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fine Lines
>>>>> http://finelinesamatterofdistinction.wordpress.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:07 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Suggest............. maybe you are looking in the wrong places.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Martin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 18:52, karen blissett wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "One of the reasons I think the ultra right-wing has such power in this 
>>>>>>> country is that no one talks out."
>>>>>>> Kathy Acker. _______________________________________________
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