>
>OTHER NM and related points:
>
>Speaking of rectification, when are we going to see NM 4.0, that will
>hopefully put back options that 3.01 and MS deliberately took away
>from us,
>and add multipoint audio and video like 3 was supposed to of had?
>
I can't think of what features were taking away that are likely to return.
I think the multipoint features were desired by lots of people but were
never in the cards ( at least not directly integrated into NetMeeting) -- I
think the poster that mentioned Exchange 2000 is correct -- following the
H.323/T.120 standard which Microsoft has chosen as its path will mean that
the way to get multipoint audio/video is through an MCU/conference server --
which apparently is integrated into Exchange 2000.
>And when the he** is ICQ going to fix the NetMeeting problems it
>still causes
>us all, years later?
I have given up hope of using ICQ for starting NetMeeting calls -- ICQ is
suffering from severe bloat problems in my opinion
>
>Also, related, possibly, to the ICQ/AOL problem, ICQ and AOL are
>now enabling
>a "third-party" audio chat scenario -- via HearMe
>(http://www.hearme.com/),
>that we have found to actually WORK
>pretty well.
Yes I have seen that -- it seems as you say to work fairly well.
>
>BTW, we are told by reliable ICQ and AOL insiders that ICQ video chat is
>almost ready, and that HearMe is working on compliant single and
>multipoint
>video capability as well.
I think though unless there is some sort of MCU type server -- this won't be
feasible (bandwidth continues to be a problem)--- MCU's regardless of their
type cost money to buy and operate even in small scale operations -- there
are currently no economic models that would support their widespread
deployment.
>
>You can activate this Voice Chat on any Web site, and with this
>"wide-area"
>HearMe, you don't HAVE to go to the ICQ HomePage just to have ICQ
>voice chat
>activated.
>BTW, putting/enabling HearMe on your web site is a heck of a lot
>easier, and
>less problematic, than trying or putting NetMeeting capability on your web
>site even though we all know the myriad options that NM offers.
I would agree if you want only voice chat -- but this technology still needs
a server to manage the audio -- servers on high bandwidth feeds don't come
for free though.
>
>In any event, regardless of NM being "free" or not, all the versions up to
>and including 3.01 is and are hamstringing a great many of us users, our
>clients and etc.
I think you are right about the hamstringing -- but I don't think it is
NetMeeting or the technology it uses that is at the core of the problem --
the core problem is still unreliable low bandwidth connections.
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