Hi Andy,

Please can you state the specific text that is being proposed to be added as a new requirement?

Thanks,
Rob


On 17/12/2015 17:33, Andy Bierman wrote:
Hi,

I am not commenting on the solution proposals.
The document being discussed is the requirements document.
I agree with Juergen that backward compatibility needs to be an
explicit requirement.  Are you objecting to such a requirement?


Andy




On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Robert Wilton <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Andy,

    Please can you let me know whether you think that any of the three
    proposed solutions wouldn't meet this backwards compatibility
    requirement?

    draft-kwatsen-netmod-opstate-00 has some features that might be
    generally useful to NETCONF, like adding <get-state> support as
    defined in section 5.1, that I would expect could just be added to
    a future version of NETCONF.  Would a requirement that the
    solution is backwards compatible with existing implementations
    require that support for <get-state> must always be optional?  Or
    could a new version of the NETCONF protocol require that support
    for <get-state> is required?

    Thanks,
    Rob


    On 17/12/2015 16:06, Andy Bierman wrote:
    Hi,

    I agree with Juergen that this should be clear.
    It was discussed several times.  All existing protocol
    functionality for NETCONF and RESTCONF MUST continue to work
    for clients which do not choose to examine the differences between
    intended config and applied config.


    Andy


    On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Kent Watsen <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:






        >>>I’m struggling a bit to understand what is motivating you
        to ask this question.   That is, as a tool vendor, I wouldn’t
        think that any decision made here would affect you
        immediately.   My expectations are that any impact to
        YANG/NETCONF/RESTCONF would be backwards compatible, such
        that implementations would only opt-in when needed - a pay as
        you grow strategy.   But herein perhaps lies an unstated
        requirement, that the impact to YANG/NETCONF/RESTCONF needs
        to be backwards compatible with respect to existing
        deployments.  Did we miss it or is it too obvious?
        >>>
        >>
        >> It may be obvious for many of us but for the sake of
        completeness I
        >> prefer to have this backwards compatibility assumption
        explicitely
        >> stated.
        >
        >+1


        [as a chair]

        As last call comment, there seems to be support for adding a
        requirement to the opstate-reqs draft to state that solutions
        supporting said requirements MUST be backwards compatible
        with respect to existing deployments.  Do we have WG
        consensus to add this as a requirement to this draft?  Are
        there any objections? Please voice your opinion before the
        last call cutoff date (Dec 30).


        [as a contributor]


        I’m unsure if it makes sense to call it out in this draft, in
        that it seems universally applicable, but I don’t see any
        harm in it either and thus do not object.


        Kent

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