Okay, I set up a doodle poll to help us pick a time:

        http://doodle.com/poll/dv68psxn33yt4ehf

Would the draft authors and other key participants please fill in their 
availability?

Thanks,
Kent




On 2/3/16, 1:18 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> On 03 Feb 2016, at 03:24, Kent Watsen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> [Chair hat on]
>> 
>> Given the number of competing/complementing drafts involved, and the general 
>> lack of discussion on any of them, a virtual interim meeting might be an 
>> expedient way to proceed.  In fairness, we know that there has been some 
>> discussion, but it hasn’t been picked up yet in a big way, and now Lou has 
>> an updated draft.  
>> 
>> The chairs discussed maybe scheduling one for a couple weeks from now, 
>> perhaps Thursday Feb 18 starting at 10am EST?   I'm thinking
>
>Thursday at this time doesn't suit me very well, Monday till Wednesday of that 
>week are OK.
>
>Lada
>
>>  about this slot only since it worked for us for previously.  Is this a good 
>> time slot?  I assume to schedule for 2 hours, with a plan to end early if 
>> needed - makes sense?     We also need to put together a proper agenda, 
>> perhaps the following?
>> 
>>  10 min: RTG DT YANG Arch team use-case summary
>>  20 min: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model
>>  20 min: draft-lhotka-netmod-ysdl
>>  20 min: draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount
>>  50 min: general discussion or end early
>> 
>> 
>> We hope to schedule the meeting itself tomorrow or the next day, so please 
>> respond quickly to this email if possible.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kent and Tom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/2/16, 2:04 PM, "netmod on behalf of Lou Berger" 
>> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I thought it would be worth summarizing what we're looking for in our
>>> draft, draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-02 (note new version in case
>>> you missed it) with respect to the draft-lhotka-netmod-ysdl and
>>> draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount drafts. This is just my view, so
>>> my co-authors may wish to chime in and correct me.
>>> 
>>> I'd be interested in hearing from the authors of YSDL and
>>> structural-mount, or anyone else for that matter, on how they see to
>>> best meet these needs.
>>> 
>>> Here's what I think our draft needs:
>>> 
>>> 1. that there be a mechanism that allows the incorporation (or
>>>  'mounting') of the data model defined by one top-level module
>>>  within another module.
>>> 
>>>  The implication here is that when information is instantiated
>>>  for the parent model it is also instantiated for the
>>>  incorporated/mounted model. In our case we expect to do this on
>>>  list element creation. Both solutions drafts cover the path
>>>  implications, so these are not repeated here.
>>> 
>>> 2. that this mechanism allow identification of specific modules to
>>>  be incorporated/mounted at time of module definition, i.e. that
>>>  no additional module is needed to support 1. This doesn't
>>>  preclude definition of such a module.
>>> 
>>> 3. that this mechanism allow for a server to control (and
>>>  identify) which modules are incorporated/mounted. (see Section
>>>  3 LNE in our draft for an envisioned usage.)
>>> 
>>> 4. that all capabilities that exist with the mounted module are
>>>  available e.g. RPC operations and notifications.
>>> 
>>> 5. while our primary requirement is for 'mounting' of top level
>>>  modules, mounting of submodules may also be useful. (DT not draft
>>>  driven.)
>>> 
>>> We make use of the above in sections 3 and 4 of rtgwg-device-model.  We
>>> see having a solution as critical for the simplifications/flexibility
>>> represented in the -02 version of our draft vs the -03 rev.  We don't
>>> see wither solution draft as significantly different and just hope for a
>>> standard solution as soon as possible.  (a draft-ietf-netmod solutions
>>> draft on the topic by BA would be fantastic given the impact on routing
>>> area -- even if it had to document two variations / alternative solutions.)
>>> 
>>> Again, this is just my opinion and my coauthors or others on the rtg
>>> area yang DT may choose to chime in.
>>> 
>>> Lou
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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