Kent - I’m assuming the poll is EST given that is where you are located.
Thanks,
Acee

On 2/3/16, 8:50 AM, "Kent Watsen" <kwat...@juniper.net> wrote:

>
>No problem, I just created another poll for the following week:
>
>       http://doodle.com/poll/byugp4umy2m4fwdz
>
>The first poll is now deleted.  For the couple of folks that put values
>there, please fill in your values again on this new poll.
>
>Kent
>
>
>
>
>
>On 2/3/16, 6:59 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <a...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2/3/16, 1:18 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> On 03 Feb 2016, at 03:24, Kent Watsen <kwat...@juniper.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [Chair hat on]
>>>> 
>>>> Given the number of competing/complementing drafts involved, and the
>>>>general lack of discussion on any of them, a virtual interim meeting
>>>>might be an expedient way to proceed.  In fairness, we know that there
>>>>has been some discussion, but it hasn’t been picked up yet in a big
>>>>way,
>>>>and now Lou has an updated draft.
>>>> 
>>>> The chairs discussed maybe scheduling one for a couple weeks from now,
>>>>perhaps Thursday Feb 18 starting at 10am EST?   I'm thinking
>>>
>>>Thursday at this time doesn't suit me very well, Monday till Wednesday
>>>of
>>>that week are OK.
>>
>>I’m out the entire week of Feb 14th.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Acee 
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Lada
>>>
>>>>  about this slot only since it worked for us for previously.  Is this
>>>>a
>>>>good time slot?  I assume to schedule for 2 hours, with a plan to end
>>>>early if needed - makes sense?     We also need to put together a
>>>>proper
>>>>agenda, perhaps the following?
>>>> 
>>>>  10 min: RTG DT YANG Arch team use-case summary
>>>>  20 min: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model
>>>>  20 min: draft-lhotka-netmod-ysdl
>>>>  20 min: draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount
>>>>  50 min: general discussion or end early
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We hope to schedule the meeting itself tomorrow or the next day, so
>>>>please respond quickly to this email if possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kent and Tom
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/2/16, 2:04 PM, "netmod on behalf of Lou Berger"
>>>><netmod-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of lber...@labn.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought it would be worth summarizing what we're looking for in our
>>>>> draft, draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-02 (note new version in
>>>>>case
>>>>> you missed it) with respect to the draft-lhotka-netmod-ysdl and
>>>>> draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount drafts. This is just my view,
>>>>>so
>>>>> my co-authors may wish to chime in and correct me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd be interested in hearing from the authors of YSDL and
>>>>> structural-mount, or anyone else for that matter, on how they see to
>>>>> best meet these needs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's what I think our draft needs:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. that there be a mechanism that allows the incorporation (or
>>>>>  'mounting') of the data model defined by one top-level module
>>>>>  within another module.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  The implication here is that when information is instantiated
>>>>>  for the parent model it is also instantiated for the
>>>>>  incorporated/mounted model. In our case we expect to do this on
>>>>>  list element creation. Both solutions drafts cover the path
>>>>>  implications, so these are not repeated here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. that this mechanism allow identification of specific modules to
>>>>>  be incorporated/mounted at time of module definition, i.e. that
>>>>>  no additional module is needed to support 1. This doesn't
>>>>>  preclude definition of such a module.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. that this mechanism allow for a server to control (and
>>>>>  identify) which modules are incorporated/mounted. (see Section
>>>>>  3 LNE in our draft for an envisioned usage.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. that all capabilities that exist with the mounted module are
>>>>>  available e.g. RPC operations and notifications.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 5. while our primary requirement is for 'mounting' of top level
>>>>>  modules, mounting of submodules may also be useful. (DT not draft
>>>>>  driven.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> We make use of the above in sections 3 and 4 of rtgwg-device-model.
>>>>>We
>>>>> see having a solution as critical for the simplifications/flexibility
>>>>> represented in the -02 version of our draft vs the -03 rev.  We don't
>>>>> see wither solution draft as significantly different and just hope
>>>>>for
>>>>>a
>>>>> standard solution as soon as possible.  (a draft-ietf-netmod
>>>>>solutions
>>>>> draft on the topic by BA would be fantastic given the impact on
>>>>>routing
>>>>> area -- even if it had to document two variations / alternative
>>>>>solutions.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again, this is just my opinion and my coauthors or others on the rtg
>>>>> area yang DT may choose to chime in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lou
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>

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