I was led to believe that the current set of drafts subsume 
draft-clemm-netmod-mount.  If that’s not true, then absolutely there should be 
a slot for that draft to be discussed as well.  Please advise.

Kent






On 2/3/16, 9:07 AM, "Robert Wilton" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Kent,
>
>There is also another Yang Mount related draft: draft-clemm-netmod-mount-03
>
>Now, this draft doesn't directly address the RTG DT Arch team use-case, 
>and seems to cover two more complex problem scenarios (remote mount and 
>alias mount), but these do appear to be a valid mount use cases (e.g. I 
>think that it is used by OpenDaylight SDN controller), and I know that 
>there is at least one implementation of this draft.
>
>So, I want to echo Eric Voit's comments that it would be good if 
>whatever basic YANG mount draft we converge on is able to be cleanly 
>extended to cover the more complex mount scenarios.
>
>As such, if Alex Clemm or Eric Voit are willing, I think that it would 
>be useful if one of them could comment on how feasible it is to extend 
>either netmod-structual-mount or netmod-ysdl to cover the remote mount 
>and alias mount scenarios described in draft-clemm-netmod-mount-03.  
>Hence, if they agree, do you think that you would be able to add a 15 
>min slot to the agenda to cover this please?
>
>Thanks,
>Rob
>
>
>On 03/02/2016 02:24, Kent Watsen wrote:
>> [Chair hat on]
>>
>> Given the number of competing/complementing drafts involved, and the general 
>> lack of discussion on any of them, a virtual interim meeting might be an 
>> expedient way to proceed.  In fairness, we know that there has been some 
>> discussion, but it hasn’t been picked up yet in a big way, and now Lou has 
>> an updated draft.
>>
>> The chairs discussed maybe scheduling one for a couple weeks from now, 
>> perhaps Thursday Feb 18 starting at 10am EST?   I'm thinking about this slot 
>> only since it worked for us for previously.  Is this a good time slot?  I 
>> assume to schedule for 2 hours, with a plan to end early if needed - makes 
>> sense?     We also need to put together a proper agenda, perhaps the 
>> following?
>>
>>    10 min: RTG DT YANG Arch team use-case summary
>>    20 min: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model
>>    20 min: draft-lhotka-netmod-ysdl
>>    20 min: draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount
>>    50 min: general discussion or end early
>>
>>
>> We hope to schedule the meeting itself tomorrow or the next day, so please 
>> respond quickly to this email if possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kent and Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/2/16, 2:04 PM, "netmod on behalf of Lou Berger" 
>> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought it would be worth summarizing what we're looking for in our
>>> draft, draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-02 (note new version in case
>>> you missed it) with respect to the draft-lhotka-netmod-ysdl and
>>> draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount drafts. This is just my view, so
>>> my co-authors may wish to chime in and correct me.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in hearing from the authors of YSDL and
>>> structural-mount, or anyone else for that matter, on how they see to
>>> best meet these needs.
>>>
>>> Here's what I think our draft needs:
>>>
>>> 1. that there be a mechanism that allows the incorporation (or
>>>    'mounting') of the data model defined by one top-level module
>>>    within another module.
>>>
>>>    The implication here is that when information is instantiated
>>>    for the parent model it is also instantiated for the
>>>    incorporated/mounted model. In our case we expect to do this on
>>>    list element creation. Both solutions drafts cover the path
>>>    implications, so these are not repeated here.
>>>
>>> 2. that this mechanism allow identification of specific modules to
>>>    be incorporated/mounted at time of module definition, i.e. that
>>>    no additional module is needed to support 1. This doesn't
>>>    preclude definition of such a module.
>>>
>>> 3. that this mechanism allow for a server to control (and
>>>    identify) which modules are incorporated/mounted. (see Section
>>>    3 LNE in our draft for an envisioned usage.)
>>>
>>> 4. that all capabilities that exist with the mounted module are
>>>    available e.g. RPC operations and notifications.
>>>
>>> 5. while our primary requirement is for 'mounting' of top level
>>>    modules, mounting of submodules may also be useful. (DT not draft
>>>    driven.)
>>>
>>> We make use of the above in sections 3 and 4 of rtgwg-device-model.  We
>>> see having a solution as critical for the simplifications/flexibility
>>> represented in the -02 version of our draft vs the -03 rev.  We don't
>>> see wither solution draft as significantly different and just hope for a
>>> standard solution as soon as possible.  (a draft-ietf-netmod solutions
>>> draft on the topic by BA would be fantastic given the impact on routing
>>> area -- even if it had to document two variations / alternative solutions.)
>>>
>>> Again, this is just my opinion and my coauthors or others on the rtg
>>> area yang DT may choose to chime in.
>>>
>>> Lou
>>>
>>>
>>>
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