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> On Mar 17, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Keith Sanborn <mrz...@panix.com> wrote: > > > If you liked the invasion of Ukraine, you love the Russian invasion when it > comes to Beograd. > >>> On Mar 17, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Miro Visic <mirow...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> So nettime turned into NATO shit list. >> >>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022, 09:48 <nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org> wrote: >>> Send nettime-l mailing list submissions to >>> nettime-l@mail.kein.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> nettime-l-ow...@mail.kein.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..." >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Irregular Ukraine Linklist (Ted Byfield) >>> 2. Re: Irregular Ukraine Linklist (Stefan Heidenreich) >>> 3. More Ukraine links (Michael Benson) >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Ted Byfield <tedbyfi...@gmail.com> >>> To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 07:05:58 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: <nettime> Irregular Ukraine Linklist >>> On 16 Mar 2022, at 4:45, Stefan Heidenreich wrote: >>> >>> > add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col. Doug >>> > Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington: >>> >>> It seems strange to see this on nettime. >>> >>> Macgregor is a Putin apologist who's called Zelensky a "puppet," accused >>> him of using the Ukrainian people as "human shields," described the wanton >>> destruction as "surprisingly little damage," and argued that the Russian >>> military should have been *more* violent in the opening days of the war. >>> He's a fixture on Fox News because he makes hosts like Tucker Carlson sound >>> moderate. >>> >>> The Secretary of Defense that Macgregor advised (for a few months) was >>> Chris Miller, who Trump installed just days after losing the election as >>> part of a larger purge of mil/intel leadership. There's good reason to >>> think that Macgregor actively involved in Trump’s attempted coup. >>> >>> From Wikipedia on Macgregor’s failed nomination (by Trump) to be ambassador >>> to Germany: >>> >>> > He has asserted that Muslim immigrants (referred to as "Muslim invaders") >>> > come to Europe "with the goal of eventually turning Europe into an >>> > Islamic state". Macgregor has argued that the German concept of >>> > Vergangenheitsbewältigung, used to cope with Germany's Nazi past and its >>> > atrocities during World War II, is a "sick mentality." Macgregor has also >>> > stated that martial law should be instituted on the U.S.-Mexico border >>> > and argued for the extrajudicial execution of those who cross the border >>> > at unofficial ports of entry. Macgregor has also made statements in >>> > support of Israel having defensible borders, the annexation of the Golan >>> > Heights, and the decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. In a >>> > column in The Washington Post he was described as "a racist crackpot who >>> > is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican." >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor?wprov=sfti1 >>> >>> Admittedly, Wikipedia is a problematic source — in this case because it >>> understates Macgregor's extremism. His view that Ukraine should serve as a >>> "neutral" buffer between NATO/EU and RU is consistent with his advocacy for >>> summary executions of undocumented migrants at the US/Mex border: he >>> doesn't like change, and he's happy to exchange others' lives en masse to >>> prevent it. >>> >>> Your suggestion that the INC should add some random rightist-noise YT video >>> to their list of practical Ukraine resources seems a bit...tone-deaf? >>> >>> Ted >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Stefan Heidenreich <m...@stefanheidenreich.de> >>> To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 12:50:48 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: <nettime> Irregular Ukraine Linklist >>> Hi Ted, I'm totally with you on one point: Macgregor is very doubtful >>> and uttered a lot of terrible political nonsense. He comes from >>> military, after all. I also detest his political views. >>> >>> But: what if his assessment of the military situation on the ground and >>> of the political situation in Washington DC is correct? >>> >>> Could it be, that, following a progressive-liberal flag, we've been led >>> by the military-industrial complex and the donor class into a hellhole? >>> I think it definitely merits to give a second thought to his possibility. >>> >>> The issue at stake is: >>> - how can we terminate this war as quickly as possible? >>> - how can we save Europa from being turned into the battlefield between >>> NATO and Russia/China? >>> (Maybe not by following the calls of the military-complex fake liberalism) >>> >>> for that matter: if there is only a glimpse of truth in what Macgregor >>> says, one should think very careful about whom and what to support. >>> >>> s >>> >>> Am 16.03.2022 um 12:05 schrieb Ted Byfield: >>> > On 16 Mar 2022, at 4:45, Stefan Heidenreich wrote: >>> > >>> >> add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col. Doug >>> >> Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington: >>> > >>> > It seems strange to see this on nettime. >>> > >>> > Macgregor is a Putin apologist who's called Zelensky a "puppet," accused >>> > him of using the Ukrainian people as "human shields," described the >>> > wanton destruction as "surprisingly little damage," and argued that the >>> > Russian military should have been *more* violent in the opening days of >>> > the war. He's a fixture on Fox News because he makes hosts like Tucker >>> > Carlson sound moderate. >>> > >>> > The Secretary of Defense that Macgregor advised (for a few months) was >>> > Chris Miller, who Trump installed just days after losing the election as >>> > part of a larger purge of mil/intel leadership. There's good reason to >>> > think that Macgregor actively involved in Trump’s attempted coup. >>> > >>> > From Wikipedia on Macgregor’s failed nomination (by Trump) to be >>> > ambassador to Germany: >>> > >>> >> He has asserted that Muslim immigrants (referred to as "Muslim >>> >> invaders") come to Europe "with the goal of eventually turning Europe >>> >> into an Islamic state". Macgregor has argued that the German concept of >>> >> Vergangenheitsbewältigung, used to cope with Germany's Nazi past and its >>> >> atrocities during World War II, is a "sick mentality." Macgregor has >>> >> also stated that martial law should be instituted on the U.S.-Mexico >>> >> border and argued for the extrajudicial execution of those who cross the >>> >> border at unofficial ports of entry. Macgregor has also made statements >>> >> in support of Israel having defensible borders, the annexation of the >>> >> Golan Heights, and the decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. >>> >> In a column in The Washington Post he was described as "a racist >>> >> crackpot who is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican." >>> > >>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor?wprov=sfti1 >>> > >>> > Admittedly, Wikipedia is a problematic source — in this case because it >>> > understates Macgregor's extremism. His view that Ukraine should serve as >>> > a "neutral" buffer between NATO/EU and RU is consistent with his advocacy >>> > for summary executions of undocumented migrants at the US/Mex border: he >>> > doesn't like change, and he's happy to exchange others' lives en masse to >>> > prevent it. >>> > >>> > Your suggestion that the INC should add some random rightist-noise YT >>> > video to their list of practical Ukraine resources seems a >>> > bit...tone-deaf? >>> > >>> > Ted >>> > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission >>> > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, >>> > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets >>> > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l >>> > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org >>> > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Michael Benson <kinpix2...@gmail.com> >>> To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:46:42 -0400 >>> Subject: <nettime> More Ukraine links >>> Emergency funding to Ukrainian journalists (administered by independent UA >>> news outlet Zaborna Media) >>> https://2402.org/#donate >>> >>> Ukrainian Red Cross >>> https://donate.redcrossredcrescent.org/ua/donate/~my-donation?_cv=1 >>> >>> Razom, an organization providing humanitarian relief in Ukraine >>> https://razomforukraine.org/razom-emergency-response/ >>> >>> Support independent Russian reporters through Meduza, operating from Riga >>> https://support.meduza.io/en >>> >>> Homo Faber, Polish NGO helping house and feed Ukrainian refugees from Lublin >>> http://hf.org.pl/ao/index.php?id=2565 >>> >>> Twitter lists >>> >>> Anglophone Russia (Russia experts and correspondents) >>> https://twitter.com/i/lists/43845512 >>> >>> 2022 Ukraine Crises (diplomats, analysts, etc) >>> https://twitter.com/i/lists/1494877848087187461 >>> >>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 at 07:00, <nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org> wrote: >>>> Send nettime-l mailing list submissions to >>>> nettime-l@mail.kein.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> nettime-l-ow...@mail.kein.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Irregular Ukraine Linklist (Geert Lovink) >>>> 2. Re: Irregular Ukraine Linklist (Stefan Heidenreich) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:08:10 +0100 >>>> From: Geert Lovink <ge...@xs4all.nl> >>>> To: a moderated mailing list for net criticism >>>> <nettime-l@mail.kein.org> >>>> Subject: <nettime> Irregular Ukraine Linklist >>>> Message-ID: <b991a5c2-a648-47e4-b9a7-7dbe7fabf...@xs4all.nl> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> Compiled for/by INC Ukraine page and more tech meets tactical media >>>> initiatives >>>> https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/ >>>> <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/> >>>> >>>> Donation campaign for Ukranian media >>>> https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going >>>> <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going> >>>> >>>> Send text messages from your phones directly to randomly selected Russians >>>> https://1920.in/ <https://1920.in/> >>>> >>>> Via INURA (thanks to Patrice): >>>> https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war >>>> <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war> >>>> >>>> Contacts for Ukrainians (via Janos Sugar) >>>> https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/ >>>> <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/> >>>> >>>> Tools for communicating offline and in difficult circumstance (via Maja >>>> van der Velden) >>>> https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances >>>> >>>> <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances> >>>> >>>> Liberal-conservative America discussing China?s role: Kaiser Kuo in >>>> conversation with Evan Feigenbaum (via Ned Rossiter) >>>> https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/ >>>> <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/> >>>> >>>> Online Russian Anti-War Petitions collection: ?In the name of the >>>> Russian people, but against our will?: Russian voices against Russia?s >>>> war in Ukraine: >>>> https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8 >>>> >>>> <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8> >>>> >>>> Links from Micheal Dieter: >>>> >>>> Recording of 'Ukrainian Dispatch - Solidarity as Cultural Praxis >>>> during Wartime' event at bbk berlin, March 14th 2022 - Panelists / >>>> Speakers: Vasyl Cherepanyn (director of the Visual Culture Research >>>> Center (VCRC, Kyiv), Nikita Kadan (artist), Maria Isserlis (curator), >>>> Marina Naprushkina (artist, founder of Neue Nachbarschaft/ Moabit), >>>> Clemens von Wedemeyer (artist Berlin). >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik> >>>> >>>> Institute of Strategic Dialogue (ISD) report, Support from the >>>> Conspiracy Corner: German-Language Disinformation about the Russian >>>> Invasion of Ukraine on Telegram: >>>> https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/> >>>> >>>> Report on Websites Blocked in Russia Since Ukraine Invasion: >>>> https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/ >>>> <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/> >>>> >>>> Global VPN use, live tracker - Russia: VPN demand increase: 2,088% >>>> (peak), Dates: February 24-March 13; Ukraine: VPN demand increase: >>>> 609% (peak); Dates: February 15-March 9 - >>>> https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/ >>>> <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20220316/9a434556/attachment-0001.html> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:45:31 +0100 >>>> From: Stefan Heidenreich <m...@stefanheidenreich.de> >>>> To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org >>>> Subject: Re: <nettime> Irregular Ukraine Linklist >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <6dae2328-e7bd-fd51-dd8a-8d8376b02...@stefanheidenreich.de> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>>> >>>> add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col. Doug >>>> Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington: >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFngc_8RiVc >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 16.03.2022 um 09:08 schrieb Geert Lovink: >>>> > Compiled for/by INC Ukraine page and more tech meets tactical media >>>> > initiatives >>>> > https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/ >>>> > <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/> >>>> > >>>> > Donation campaign for Ukranian media >>>> > https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going >>>> > <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going> >>>> > >>>> > Send text messages from your phones directly to randomly selected >>>> > Russians >>>> > https://1920.in/ <https://1920.in/> >>>> > >>>> > Via INURA (thanks to Patrice): >>>> > https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war >>>> > <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war> >>>> > >>>> > Contacts for Ukrainians (via Janos Sugar) >>>> > https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/ >>>> > <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/> >>>> > >>>> > Tools for communicating offline and in difficult circumstance (via Maja >>>> > van der Velden) >>>> > https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances >>>> > >>>> > <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances> >>>> > >>>> > Liberal-conservative America discussing China?s role: Kaiser Kuo in >>>> > conversation with Evan Feigenbaum (via Ned Rossiter) >>>> > https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/ >>>> > >>>> > <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/> >>>> > >>>> > Online Russian Anti-War Petitions collection: ?In the name of the >>>> > Russian people, but against our will?: Russian voices against Russia?s >>>> > war in Ukraine: >>>> > https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8 >>>> > >>>> > <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8> >>>> > >>>> > Links from Micheal Dieter: >>>> > >>>> > Recording of 'Ukrainian Dispatch - Solidarity as Cultural Praxis >>>> > during Wartime' event at bbk berlin, March 14th 2022 - Panelists / >>>> > Speakers: Vasyl Cherepanyn (director of the Visual Culture Research >>>> > Center (VCRC, Kyiv), Nikita Kadan (artist), Maria Isserlis (curator), >>>> > Marina Naprushkina (artist, founder of Neue Nachbarschaft/ Moabit), >>>> > Clemens von Wedemeyer (artist Berlin). >>>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik >>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik> >>>> > >>>> > Institute of Strategic Dialogue (ISD) report, Support from the >>>> > Conspiracy Corner: German-Language Disinformation about the Russian >>>> > Invasion of Ukraine on Telegram: >>>> > https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/ >>>> > >>>> > <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/> >>>> > >>>> > Report on Websites Blocked in Russia Since Ukraine Invasion: >>>> > https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/ >>>> > <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/> >>>> > >>>> > Global VPN use, live tracker - Russia: VPN demand increase: 2,088% >>>> > (peak), Dates: February 24-March 13; 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