Hmmm....

Your 7500 can't be very old, so unless it is a buggy drive (or model 
edition) it should have no problems reading a full 80 Min./700 MB CD-R. 
(I would think!) However, keep in mind that a 700 MD CD-R does not pose 
a problem to an older 650 MB max. drive *until* you exceed the old 
drives ability to read. If your earlier burns have been under the 650 MB 
mark (which I believe 8.2's were), a 650 MB CD-ROm drive would never let 
you know that it can't go further, even when using the higher capacity 
medium. Shane mentioned it best on that matter. See his post shortly 
after yours. It could be that your combo drive really is limited to 650 
MB. Did you ask tech support about its read capacity, and did you check 
the documentation that came with your laptop? This could be your answer.

As long as you have a replacement drive coming in, wait until it does 
and see if anything changes. You may get a newer drive with an increased 
read capacity. Meanwhile, I am going to stick my recently burned MDK 9 
CDs into a CD-ROM drive that I know cannot read beyond 650 MBs and see 
if I can reproduce your problem.

Catch you afterward...

T

Paul Rodriguez wrote:
> Hi, T.  It may be the drive, but if so, I'm not sure if getting a new
> one from Dell will fix it.  To clarify my problem:
> 
> *  My Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop will not read the Mandrake 9.0 ISOs I
> have created.
> 
> *  The same CDs work fine on other machines (like my desktop).
> 
> *  My laptop has not had any issues with previous Mandrake ISOs, only
> 9.0.  
> 
> *  My laptop can read most 80min cd's (e.g. if I burn a cd with some
> data files), just not the Mandrake ISOs.
> 
> Some troubleshooting attempts I have made:
>       Different 80min media (Iomega, etc.)
>       Using Gtoaster and cdrecord at different speeds
>       Using the '-dao' option in cdrecord
> 
> 
> If, as may be the case, my laptop drive simply can not read an 80 min cd
> loaded as full as the Mandrake ones are, what can I do?  I have already
> requested a replacement drive from Dell.  It should be arriving shortly
> (my hope is that a newer drive version will have more compatability). 
> If that doesn't work, then what?
> 
> I would very much prefer not to install from the hard drive.  I feel a
> little frustrated having recently paid my Mandrake dues for a product I
> can't use.  In the early beta phase I suggested a different ISO be made
> available for people having trouble, and I still think this is a good
> idea.  I'm sure I'll work this out with the help of the list, and I
> appreciate your reply, T.
> 
> - Paul
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2002-09-29 at 19:05, Technoslick wrote:
> 
>>I see that your Dell Inspiron 7500 either has a CD-ROM/Floppy Drive or 
>>DVD-ROM/Floppy Dive unit in the Media Bay. Assuming that I understand 
>>correctly: 1) your CD-ROM (or DVD-ROM) drive is able to read 
>>commercially produced CDs flawlessly; 2) you aren't specifically 
>>speaking of being able to boot off those CD-Rs when you say "not 
>>readable"; 3) and you can read CD-Rs produced on other than your Linux 
>>PC --- It sounds like the problem lies exclusively in your Dell.
>>
>>Older CD-ROMs could not read the surfaces of CD-Rs due to the lighter 
>>burn temp and impressions made with a CD-R drive. That was pre-12X days. 
>>I have a 24X Toshiba that will sit there and churn for the better part 
>>of a minute trying to make sense of a CD-R, then quit. It would be an 
>>unexpected surprise for a modern laptop to have a CD-ROM drive (I won't 
>>even entertain a DVD-ROM drive incapable of seeing a CD-R!) that was 
>>blind in this area.
>>
>>I think the key to understanding what's happening is in having you 
>>better define what it is that your Dell's ROM drive *can* and *cannot 
>>do*. If you can say that you have tried burns off of other PCs (owned or 
>>unowned), and commercial CDs, too, and they all work in your Dell, 
>>PLUS...the burns off your Linux box are readable in other PCs (non-Linux 
>>ones, too)...as a professional troubleshooter, I would start to look at 
>>your Dell as the sole source of the problem. If your laptop is still 
>>under warranty, call Dell and ask them if there is a known issue with 
>>the particular combo drive that you have on your computer. Check their 
>>support site (http://support.dell.com/), login with your account (if you 
>>have one), create one, or use your computers Service Tag number to get 
>>to the info specific to your machine. Then look in the downloads area 
>>for patches or driver upgrades. You could have an earlier production 
>>combo unit with a sensitivity to CD-Rs produced by certain CD-RWs, or 
>>its plain buggy and needs a TLC patch. :-)
>>
>>Please remember that all this I have said here is under the assumption 
>>that you are only speaking about the inability to *read* any CDs on your 
>>Dell laptop that were burned exclusively on your Linux box.
>>
>>Good Luck, Paul. I hope you find your answer...
>>
>>T
>>
>>
>>Paul Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>>>   I have attempted to burn the Mandrake 9.0 ISOs several times. In all
>>>occasions, the CD was not readable on my Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop. The
>>>CD did, however, work on my desktop. When I put the CD in the laptop
>>>tray, it seeks for approximately 15 seconds before giving up. I have
>>>tried different CD media. I have tried using Gtoaster and cdrecord. I
>>>have tried changing the writing speed. I have tried using the "-dao"
>>>option in cdrecord. But nothing seems to make these CDs readable on my
>>>laptop. Please help.
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