On Friday 11 Oct 2002 11:20 pm, you wrote:
> On Friday October 11 2002 01:25 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Friday 11 Oct 2002 8:27 am, you wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 09 October 2002 09:29 pm, you wrote:
> > >
> > > Good Grief people.  Why are you upgrading to 9.0 when you have 8.2
> > > and it works (unless you really want to deal with a new distro's
> > > issues)?  New releases always have problems (8.0 probably had the
> > > least of the new ones), and IMO are really NOT for use on my
> > > primary machine.  In a month or two it might be ready.
> >
> > Although I have ordered the disks, after reading of the problems I
> > had come to the same conclusion.  Of course in the bad old days we
> > accepted that you never buy release x.0 of anything, always wait for
> > x.1, and I guess Mandrake is probably no different.  And I totally
> > accept the reasoning you give.
> >
> > Anne
>
>    Then you're both have a different approach and understanding than I
> do.  IMO, 9.0 is nothin but 8.x upgraded and fixed. 9.1 will be 9.0
> upgraded and fixed.  What falls behind, far as I can  tell, is those
> that aren't fixed or upgraded, often hardware, more often users.
> 'Course those two catagories alone account for 95% of most problems in
> the first place.
>
>    Every six months when there's a new release, there's always the 5%
> proclaiming that <insert last or older release> was <great/good/
> better>. This <insert current release>  <doesn't work/is worse/not
> ready/rushed/'accept the idea' to not use a '.0 release'/, or sux>.
>
So you don't acce[t that the software houses learn from the myriad 
installations that are reported to them?

>    Seems all a terrible release has to do for some people, is to age six
> months for users to catch up and begin believin it's the 'best', or at
> least <great/good/better>.  So, if you find yourself believin 'every
> body knows', or listen to the rest of the 5%, then wait 5 months to
> install 9.0.  For my part I'm already workin/usin 9.0+
>
>    The 'No sound in LM9' situation in Mdk 9.0 is to save the 5% and some
> others, from themselves.  ISA devices (most of which are sound cards)
> are no longer automatically probed, and setup. This is mainly caused by
> even more numerous complaints from unknowing users (who are also
> buyers) of substandard, non-compliant, obsolete, or unknown hardware
> (mostly motherboards, sound cards) causing hardware freezes/lockups
> during auto detection.

I fail to see how you class SoundBlaster Live and Audigy cards as ISA 
devices, or as substandard, non-compliant, obsolete or unknown hardware.

Anne

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