From: "Anne Wilson"

I have  used them together once or twice, but feel that it is better avoided
if you can.  What about the DIMM clock speed issue, though?

T: Sorry! I forgot that you asked that.

The best answer I can give you on whether you really need to buy PC100
memory:

If your motherboard manual warns you to use it, as it does in the manual for
a MicroStar MS-5169 motherboard, when your CPU bus frequency is 100 MHz,
then you must. If your manual does not make any mention of this, the PC100
memory may have been in the system because that was all that was availble at
the time. The external bus speed on a 233 MHz processor is 66.6 MHz, so I
would think that you should be able to use PC133 memory. I do here, in both
of my boxes that use P233 MMX's. I would not suggest mixing chips of
different clock speeds. Once again, I have done it and it has worked, and
then on other systems not worked. The newer and/or more advanced the
motherboard, the greater the possibility that it can handle mixed speeds
without a problem. Of course, the system will drop down to the lowest rating
installed.

Would /swap and /home on 1 drive and the rest on the other be a good
configuration?

T: I have to chuckle on this question because I am so lazy with this that I
usually let Mandrake partition for me. If you do, it will most likely make
the second drive your /home partition, dividing up the primary drive as /
and /swap. The pros on having seperate partitions for the other critical
directories seem moot on such a small drive configuration, but I'm sure
there are many others that would have a different opinion. For what you want
to do with this box, K.I.S.S. works fine in my book. Mandrake will
automatically try to make /swap about 400 MBs for 128 MBs of RAM. It works
for me. The rest of the primary drive is enough to squeek in pretty much all
that he is going to have horsepower to run (IMHO). The 4 GB /home gives him
tons of space to download his updates (and keep them, if he needs them
again) or to store his personal stuff.


My bad, I think.  I meant to imply that it was absolutely average.  I don't
have the specs, but I could probably get some - it's a Goldstar.

T: Goldstar has never been appreciated as quality componentry, but my
experience with their goods is that they perform, and keep performing long
after the name-band stuff has died and become a memory. However, the only
way to know is to see if you can get specs off the manual or find them on
the Web. Of all the stuff that you have in a PC, I think frying the monitor
has got to be the easiest 'no-no' to accomplish. Then again, I carry my own
personal, customized black cloud with me all the time, so who am I to say?
;-)


Believe it or not I still have a small drive with Win3.1 on that was once
used
on this computer.  I think the quickest and easiest test would be to put
that
drive in and check what configuration windows allows.  There you are - I
knew
there was a point to M$'s existance!

T: If you can't beat 'em, suck 'em dry for all they can give you! :-D

Keep in mind that Win 3.1 can't drive high specs without the drivers being
there for the display adapter. If you put the ATi card in, you will need ATi
Win 3.x drivers to see what the display can handle. Then you'll have to
manually bump the frequency up until it won't display. It's a lot of work to
do it in Win 3.x. Lastly, the monitor that I fried not too long ago in Linux
had no problems running 1024X768, 24-bit and at a frequncy of 70 Hz in
Windows. Linux is notorious for trying to drive refresh rate well beyond 75
Hz, which will kill older monitors. In the absense of specs, I would install
without testing X-windows, then deal with it it later in Xconfigurator. With
or without specs,  you can still use Xconfigurator to manually put your
horizontal and vertical frequencies in, or edit the 'XF86Config' file
manually with an editor.


Could be - my daughters both just want something that works with the minimum
of effort, like a hammer or screwdriver.  The grandson's 14, artistically
gifted, and would like to make a living in computer graphics.  He's
beginning
to realise that the more he knows about computers and the better for his
future, although I'm a bit concerned that it's a rarified career.

It's funny, though, that he turns to grandma for tech support - I doubt if
his
friends do.  But then younger daughter says I used to embarrass her when she
was a teenager, because she could not own up to having a mother who had a
Stranglers record!  I was never a sheep - even got my MSc after I turned 60
<g>

I used to feel lonely when I wanted to discuss tech issues, so this list is
a
wonderful boost.

Anne

T: OK, Anne, you are now intmidating me! I wish I had had a gramndma like
you. <sigh> And yes, it is lonely not having someone to discuss this stuff
with. That's what makes this group so important to all of us. For those of
us  that haven't learned it all (my hand is raised high on this one!), this
is really a great place to spend time. I couldn't care less about owing up
to what I don't know, as long as someone is willing to teach me more.

As for a future in the computer industry, there will always be room for one
more. Starting young is the key, along with the personality to drive him to
always want to learn more. However, having you around, to give him loving
support is what can make him good or great at it! I have tried to get either
of my daughters to bend their carrer desires around computer technology. All
that matters to them is that they can browse the Web, download their MP3s
and IM their buddies. The rest is 'for everyone else' in their minds! ARGH!

Anyway, it seems that you have the making of a 1st-timer. As long as your
grandson doesn't expect the world from it, he should enjoy it. You do
realize, don't you, that if his mind grabs on to Linux, you will be asking
him for help very soon? <giggle>

T :-D



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