On Monday 02 December 2002 19:57, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Monday December 2 2002 11:12 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 Nov 2002 3:59 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > > Agreed. I have just bought one of those Via Eden motherboards from
> > > www.linitx.com in the UK £63 for Motherboard and processor with
> > > 5.1sound/video/TVout/lan,  even better it is passively cooled - NO
> > > FANS Runs KDE3 just fine (although there is a trick to get 9.0
> > > installed)
> >
> > I don't think you ever told us what the trick was?  This sounds such
> > a good bargain I would be interested to know how you fared.
> >
> > Anne
> 
>     The trick is VIA.  The VIA-Cyrix3 processors try'n pretend they're 
> i686 cpu's. They're not. They're not even i586 compliant, reverting to 
> some i486 characteristics. Their 800+ cpu's perform at 400mhz levels, 
> and it's not all due to their small L caches.  IMO, anyone researching 
> the capabilities of these cpu's ....would avoid them. I have a similar 
> opinion of any mini-ITX Hardware.  486's didn't need fans either, and 
> ran like ...well 486's ;>  Which is why there's "a trick to get 9.0 
> [i586] installed".
> 
>   http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/errata.php3#viac3   is a start, a 
> Google on 'VIA C3' or 'mini-ITX Hardware', a search of the cooker ML 
> archive, and reputable hardware sites, I believe will backup my 
> opinions. The old adage applies 'you get what you pay for'.  In this 
> case I believe quality, currently capable hardware can be had for 
> similar (if not cheaper in the long run) prices. Just needs a fan 
> here'n there ;~>
> -- 
>     Tom Brinkman                  Corpus Christi, Texas
> 
> 

"you get what you pay for" is an interesting comment to make on a Linux 
mailing list!

A PII 400MHz equivalent is hugely over specced for many tasks, especially 
without a gui, or on a low-usage home network. And the fact that it's silent, 
rather than just quiet, means a lot to me in terms of domestic harmony.

RichardA

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