I agree, but i don't think its been worked on since Civileme
took a powder from mandrake..

it could (and should) be prettied up and made the default..
would be of benefit to mandrake to do so.

I might look into that, depends on what language its written
in..


rgds

Franki

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen
Kuhn
Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 2:43 PM
To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I start the GUI from a command
line?


On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 08:30, Jerry Barton wrote:

> > startx
> >
> If you'd like a easy choice of GUI from the command line
without using a graphical display manager you might want to
use Xtart.
> I don't remember if it installs by default (I _THINK_ it
does).  If it's not then log in as root and
>
> urpmi Xtart
>
> Personally, I don't use kdm, mdkdm, gdm, xdm etc... It
just seems to add an extra step that takes more time IMHO.
> The last time I used one I would login from the command
line, startx, then log in again on the display manager,
choose a GUI and hit ok.
> Maybe it's not like that anymore?  I know if i do startx
now it just goes straight to KDE but I figure that's because
I don't use a graphical display manager.  But... (and it's
getting quite cliche to say this...) that's the great thing
about GNU/Linux... choice.  :-)
> HTH
>
> Jerry

It's really too bad that Xtart isn't installed by default
for the
Mandrake distro; having heaps choices for wm's/desktops is a
great
experience for "noobs'n'boobs" - shows more of the
advantages to
GNU/linux over the other OS's available for the PC market...

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