Sharrea Day wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:28, Bryan Phinney wrote:


On Saturday 20 September 2003 01:39 am, Sharrea Day wrote:


Well I'm real glad to hear I'm not the only one.  I had 7 coasters and
thought it had something to do with that error when trying to copy a
music CD.

So can someone please tell me if there is such a thing as "DATA ONLY"
CDRs? Just thought perhaps that's the reason for the coasters...?


You want to make sure that you are either using some good generic scsi
drivers in the burning program or that you have correctly identified the
drive type. Small differences can result in major problems.



Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24, Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
How do I know if this is a good driver? I've included the output from one session as an attachment.




Also, if you are trying to burn at max speed and get coasters, you may
want to try specifying a reduced speed for burning. Most CD Burners try
to read the available speed off the media but the media is not always
accurate, I routinely get CD's that report a capable speed of 24x but end
up coasters if I try to burn that fast, I have to drop it to 16x for
those.



I always specify the speed - 8x for CDR and 4x for CDRW. But after the first 2 coasters I used 4x for the CDR which obviously didn't help. They all have the same result of playing the first 3 songs fine, then from the 4th song onwards... nothing. Even tho all songs are correctly listed in xmms. Got so desperate that I tried Windows with winamp which played almost all of the 4th song then died.


I gave my old HP9310 CD-Writer to a friend whose system couldn't take this new USB CD-Writer. Never had a problem with the old one but haven't used this new one all that much.



If you are copying other CD's, keep in mind that Copy Protection can mess
things up. If you are copying someone else's ISO, you may want to mount
it as a loopback device and check the properties. I have had initial
configuration difficulties with Xcdroast and K3B but have both working
now without any problems or errors.



Sorry, I wasn't very specific there. I didn't actually copy on-the-fly, I ripped the audio CD to hard drive and then burnt to CDR. Each song plays fine from the hard drive. I even deleted them and ripped again several times using various apps, all with the same result.




Happy to help if you give me more details of your exact situation.



I tried burning from the command line, xcdroast, k3b, and eroaster which is the program I use the most. I also tried burning as root user.


Data (backups, etc) works fine with this burner on the same CDRs. However I burnt MDK 9.1 ISOs which wouldn't work from my old CD-ROM drive but worked in my newer CD-ROM drive on another system.

I haven't tried burning a different audio CD yet but will give it a go today. Maybe its just that particular audio CD.

Using MDK 9.1 with a BTC 5224UI External USB 2.0 CD-Writer (52x 24x 52x).

Your help and advice is much appreciated as always.

Sharrea


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$ cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=1,0,0 -pad -audio /home/sharrea/music/wav/*.wav
Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA
scsidev: '1,0,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
atapi: 1
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 2
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info    : 'CDWRITER'
Identifikation : 'IDE5224         '
Revision       : '001H'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1951488 = 1905 KB
FIFO size      : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: audio   27 MB (02:45.09) no preemp
Track 02: audio   32 MB (03:14.82) no preemp
Track 03: audio   43 MB (04:17.42) no preemp
Track 04: audio   29 MB (02:56.98) no preemp
Track 05: audio   27 MB (02:45.73) no preemp
Track 06: audio   37 MB (03:40.73) no preemp
Track 07: audio   26 MB (02:38.80) no preemp
Track 08: audio   25 MB (02:34.41) no preemp
Track 09: audio   33 MB (03:22.08) no preemp
Track 10: audio   33 MB (03:17.70) no preemp
Track 11: audio   22 MB (02:14.26) no preemp
Track 12: audio   30 MB (03:01.09) no preemp
Track 13: audio   25 MB (02:29.25) no preemp
Track 14: audio   22 MB (02:15.26) no preemp
Track 15: audio   27 MB (02:43.73) no preemp
Track 16: audio   27 MB (02:42.28) no preemp
Track 17: audio   20 MB (02:04.29) no preemp
Track 18: audio   26 MB (02:36.78) no preemp
Track 19: audio   22 MB (02:10.86) no preemp
Track 20: audio   29 MB (02:56.86) no preemp
Total size:      579 MB (57:26.50) = 258488 sectors
Lout start:      580 MB (57:28/38) = 258488 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
 Indicated writing power: 5
 Is not unrestricted
 Is not erasable
 Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2)
 ATIP start of lead in:  -11634 (97:26/66)
 ATIP start of lead out: 359846 (79:59/71)
Disk type:    Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 3
Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
Blocks total: 359846 Blocks current: 359846 Blocks remaining: 101358
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 8 in real TAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write    0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is OFF.
Performing OPC...
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:   27 of   27 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  16%]   5.2x.
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 29122464/29122464 (12382 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 12534
Track 02:   32 of   32 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  45%]   5.1x.
Track 02: Total bytes read/written: 34367424/34367424 (14612 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 27298
Track 03:   43 of   43 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  70%]   5.1x.
Track 03: Total bytes read/written: 45410064/45410064 (19307 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 46757
Track 04:   29 of   29 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  55%]   4.9x.
Track 04: Total bytes read/written: 31220448/31220448 (13274 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 60183
Track 05:   27 of   27 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  81%]   5.1x.
Track 05: Total bytes read/written: 29235360/29235360 (12430 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 72765
Track 06:   37 of   37 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  46%]   5.3x.
Track 06: Total bytes read/written: 38937360/38937360 (16555 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 89472
Track 07:   26 of   26 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  32%]   5.2x.
Track 07: Total bytes read/written: 28012320/28012320 (11910 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 101534
Track 08:   25 of   25 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  70%]   4.7x.
Track 08: Total bytes read/written: 27238512/27238512 (11581 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 113267
Track 09:   33 of   33 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  56%]   5.2x.
Track 09: Total bytes read/written: 35646912/35646912 (15156 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 128575
Track 10:   33 of   33 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  16%]   5.3x.
Track 10: Total bytes read/written: 34875456/34875456 (14828 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 143555
Track 11:   22 of   22 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  67%]   4.5x.
Track 11: Total bytes read/written: 23684640/23684640 (10070 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 153777
Track 12:   30 of   30 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  25%]   5.1x.
Track 12: Total bytes read/written: 31944864/31944864 (13582 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 167511
Track 13:   25 of   25 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  79%]   5.4x.
Track 13: Total bytes read/written: 26328288/26328288 (11194 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 178857
Track 14:   22 of   22 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  62%]   4.6x.
Track 14: Total bytes read/written: 23861040/23861040 (10145 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 189154
Track 15:   27 of   27 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  17%]   5.3x.
Track 15: Total bytes read/written: 28882560/28882560 (12280 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 201586
Track 16:   27 of   27 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  19%]   5.3x.
Track 16: Total bytes read/written: 28626192/28626192 (12171 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 213909
Track 17:   20 of   20 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  15%]   5.2x.
Track 17: Total bytes read/written: 21925344/21925344 (9322 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 223383
Track 18:   26 of   26 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  42%]   5.2x.
Track 18: Total bytes read/written: 27657168/27657168 (11759 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 235294
Track 19:   22 of   22 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  53%]   4.5x.
Track 19: Total bytes read/written: 23084880/23084880 (9815 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 245261
Track 20:   29 of   29 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  42%]   5.3x.
Track 20: Total bytes read/written: 31199280/31199280 (13265 sectors).
Writing  time:  713.581s
Average write speed   4.8x.
Min drive buffer fill was 12%
Fixating...
Fixating time:   37.897s
cdrecord: fifo had 9479 puts and 9479 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 9414 times full, min fill was 98%.




One possibility.

Would by any chance, the orginal audio CD be a "continuous audio CD , that is , with no gaps between tracks" because if so, you can get read problems when you come to play the burnt CD, if you read the original audio CD with -pad flag. The sympton of being able to read up to 3/4 tracks before it hangs is a characteristic of this. If so the solution is to remove the | X | from "do index scan" in xcdroast, or remove "-pad" from cdrecord CL.

I have never come across any blank CD's that were data only, they all accept audio.

John

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