On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 11:04, robin wrote:
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Tuesday 04 November 2003 04:24 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > 
> >>On Tuesday 04 November 2003 04:05 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Tuesday 04 November 2003 09:05 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>According to this article, Novell has just purchased Suse
> >>>>for $210 million:
> >>>>http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5101680.html -- cmg
> >>>
> >>>    I think this is A Good Thing for Linux. Not so good for
> >>>Red Hat or Mandrake's enterprise efforts. But, the first thing
> >>>that crossed my mind (actually Novell - SuSE acquisition has
> >>>been rumored for a while), is how will this affect the SCO
> >>>fiasco?  Novell has rights to Unix code licensing, and can
> >>>amend SCO's rights, which are subordinate. Or so Novell
> >>>claims, and SCO is reluctant to admit.
> >>
> >>And now, what's next ? - IBM buys Mandrake ?
> >>
> >>Kaj Haulrich.
> > 
> > 
> >    What's next, only time will tell. IBM has been a strong Linux 
> > supporter for several years. To the tune that they put about $75Mil 
> > into SuSE a year or so ago. Now that's been acquired by Novell, also 
> > a strong Linux support group, an the reason they split from SCO some 
> > time back. BUT, SuSE, IBM, and Novell also have current an prior 
> > relationships and agreements. IBM is ante'g up $50 million into these 
> > Novell/Ximian/SuSE collaboration efforts. SuSE came out smellin like 
> > a rose. I believe so did Novell.
> > 
> >    So I just view it as circlin the wagons in a more concerted effort 
> > for OSS/GNU/Linux to take over the Net and enterprise. Fsck M$ et al.  
> > The money involved is relatively peanuts anyhow for Novell, not even 
> > pocket change for IBM. For an indicator, http://news.netcraft.com/
> > notice that Apache's (on Un*x) gain, mirrors M$ loss. BTW, IBM 
> > involvement is significant to me. They're about 19 on the world's 
> > largest companies. For perspective, Microsoft is somewhere in the 
> > 170's.  BUT...
> > 
> >   So we're still here, just the 1 or 2% of the desktop users runnin 
> > Linux. RedHat wants to go enterprise only. No surprise they always 
> > considered regular users as a nuisance (which they are) for a 
> > commercial distro. Realistically there's only two major community 
> > sponsored choices left, Mandrake an Debian. I ain't goin anywhere, 
> > but there's much less than 1 or 2% left. What to do? ....
> > 
> >    So y'all can help, or give up. One or the other, no free rides. 
> > Join the Club, but also,
> >       tom $ cat /etc/mandrake-release
> >       Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586  
> >    got goin yesterday. Install an test it, specially those with ready 
> > made marginal hardware (Dell, Gateway, Compaq, any laptop, etc). 
> > Subscribe (lurk) on the cooker and change log lists, contribute when 
> > you can. When it's done in a few months, you can feel proud that you 
> > helped ... or you can resort to being one of those that sings the 
> > same old song 'Mandrake hasn't been a good release <insert prior 
> > release>, this one should'a had more work an testing' .... 
> 
> I've never done any distro testing, since I only have a 4GB hard drive, 
> and it's currently 93% full.  However, I should be getting a new box in 
> a few weeks' time, with enough space for a an extra Linux partition, and 
> enough speed to make it worthwhile compiling RPMs (I've only done that 
> once, for LyX, but I can relearn how to do it pretty quickly).  I'll be 
> happy to test anything that doesn't blow up my monitor (remembering the 
> good old days when you edited a modeline and said a prayer before typing 
> "startx").
> 
> Sir Robin
Thank god  I'm to new for that :-))
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