On Friday 18 June 2004 06:00 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Friday 18 June 2004 18:47, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Friday 18 June 2004 04:47 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > > On Friday 18 June 2004 05:12 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > > > ->My apologizes I was consumed with an excessive fatheadness. > > > I ment 105F ->when my amd 2100 gets there it becomes unstable. > > > > > > Gotcha. Thats about on par with what I see here as well. I > > > should have recognized that you meant F instead of C, so I'm > > > sorry about that too. I just kept getting this mental image of > > > my CPU at 105C...(meltdown!). > > > > > > :-) > > > > 105C to 110C _internal_core_temp_ is the AMD spec'd failure > > temp. Read that as 'fried forever'. Bios temps aren't very > > useful. The system has just booted an is under low load. As Ron > > mentioned earlier, and AMD docs support (overclockers have long > > known), the actual core temp is 10C to 20C hotter than the temp > > you see in bios or from lm_sensors. It is afterall, an external > > contact temp from a probe. 45 to 55C for current XP's is normal. > > Just keep in mind the actual internal core temp is closer to 60 > > to 75C. If you see less than 40C from a probe, the report is > > bogus unless you're usin a water cooler. > > > > Case coolin IME is more important than fancy dan cpu coolers. > > Also run fans at 100%, forget the variable speed gimmicks. Use of > > thermal grease rather than pads is mandatory. I've seen Volcano's > > mentioned in this thread. I favor them (Volcano 11+, 4800rpm big > > fan) .... because they're easy to keep clean. Avoid coolers that > > have many close together vanes. They're impossible to keep clean, > > tho they work just as well when new. > > > > Hoyt, 122F = 50C, so your processor should not be unstable at > > temps of 105F. If the readings are accurate, it probly means > > you've enabled slowin the fans down when the cpu isn't under > > load. The fallacy there is that cpu core temp and load can spike > > up instantly .... heatsinks by the nature of their mass, take a > > long time to cool to respond. On most laptops this is a > > necessary evil. Don't do it with a desktop, certainly not with a > > server. > > > > One more thing. cpu's that have been run hot ... don't heal. > > -- > > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > Proud to be an American > > Thanks for the info. I dont have any control over the fan speed and the > reason I know as much as I do is that the cpu fan quit high speed a few > days before the warrenty expired. The bios is all I have for fan and > temp info. I didnt realize the importance of temp sensors when I bought > the system, since I didnt plan on overclocking I assumed that I would > not need the sensor system. So would underclocking it be an option?
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