On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 07:31, Lanman wrote:
> LX,
> 
> <snip>, <snip>, <snip>, and more <snippage>.
> 
> Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > Without that, MDK would be just another gray distro.
> 
> Definite words of wisdom! How old is this guy? Should we be calling him 
> *Master* ?

Personally I'd just settle for being Ann Coulter's webmaster. ;)

> 
>  > We need to keep the newbie list the friendliest list on the
> > net, so that we can continue to remain a haven for new users. 
> 
> A worthwhile pursuit even if some of us have become somewhat jaded. 
> Still, we should strive in search of perfection, Yes/No?

Exactly, which is the reason for me being Ann Coulter's webmaster, since
she is the model of perfection.  <grin>

> 
> > To that end we have an unusually large aggregation of socially aware users on
> > this list; that are also technically capable.
> 
> Did I hear someone refer to me again? (Grin!) My ears are burning for 
> some reason! LMAO!

I should have saved your ears and just said it out loud: LANMAN. <grin>

> 
> > LX
> 
> I'm getting bored with constantly agreeing with this guy! 

I'm not!  <grin!>


> He is 
> consistently spouting truths and common sense like it's the left over 
> coffee grounds at a StarBuck's. In order to save a lot of time 
> complimenting Lyvim on his wisdom, I propose we simply elect him to the 
> position of *List-Sensei*, and be done with it! All in Favor?
> 
> However, I don't suggest a pedestal. The air would be too thin up there 
> and he might pass out! Grin!

Some might say that the air must be a certain specific gravity in order
for me to be able to convert it into hotter air.  Hehehe

> 
> Even though people like Bryan and I can disagree on philosophical and 
> idealogical concepts, we still retain respect for one another (although 
> there are times when you wouldn't easily notice it), and continue to 
> participate on the list with the best intentions. A lot of that has to 
> do with members like Lyvim keeping a steady demeanor and being patient 
> with us passionate types who can get carried away.

Yet I myself am a passionate type like yourself.  I just believe in
sparring with those who I consider to be at least as opinionated and
outspoken as I am, yet incorrect in my experience.  I am sure you feel
the same way about yourself.  Such disagreements, IMO, advance the
status quo.  This is much different than newbie abuse; you can be
assured that I *don't* believe in abusing newbies.  Which is primarily
why I wrote what I did; but I know you already know that.

There's a big difference between disagreements between seasoned list
members and an unwarranted attack on a newbie that's just getting into
the Linux world.  But once again I don't need to tell you that.  

> Lyvim is one of the few who maintains a relatively even composure 
> compared to some of us and constantly offers help, suggestions and 
> tactful nudges as to list etiquette instead of attacking newbies or 
> welcoming them with criticism.
> 
> I'd like to think that guys like LX will make this list a favourite spot 
> for newbies for a long time to come and will ultimately lead to a better 
> experience for most of us.

Thanks for the kind words, Lanman.

There are some spring loaded prima donna's that might disagree with you,
but I think they are the least of our difficulties.  Especially since we
have the OT list available for political disagreements and otherwise,
therefore we can send them over there for decisive ends to disagreements
(if they have the cahoneys to go, which most of the milksops that whine
or bitch or have politically inflaming sigs don't have the nutsack to do
it) and at that point I can handle them with dispatch.

BTW you should visit us at the OT list, as you are constantly an
interesting topic of conversation. ;)


> Now, if only we could devise a way to increase Joe's Prozac dosage, and
> find a way to enforce a minimum caffeine limit of at least 6 cups/day in 
> all list-members this place would be a lot more enjoyable for all!

Joe might think that some of this (that I wrote) is directed at him, but
it's not really.  In fact, Joe of late has been very newbie friendly.  I
hope that trend will continue.

> 
> (By the way Lyvim? I hope my check is in the mail? Grin!)

It was too big for one payment so it was the first of ten installments
with a final bonus upon your subscription to the OT list. ;)

LX
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