[SNIPPED]> On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 07:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Once more thank you for your answers (for all who contributed). I do 
> appreciate
> > them, but I have not been able solve this. Let me try to be more clearer 
> > what
> > the problem seems to be:
> > 
> > I have the verbose mode on (or I think so) by default. I see lots of stuff
> > rolling through the screen when I boot (Like "Starting Shorewall:  [OK]"). 
> > It 
> is
> > only when this finishes (after getting the time from the remote server via
> > internet) things hang. The sequence of events varies a little from boot to 
> boot
> > but here is what happens: 
> > 
> > 1. The blue screen with mandrake logo and an hourglass comes up
> > 2. Sometimes I also get the login screen quickly, sometimes don't. If I do 
> > get
> > the login screen I can login, but then everything hangs (with the blue 
> > screen
> > with mandrake logo and hourglass).
> > 3. When I don't get to the login screen I just see the same screen (with 
> hourglass).
> > 4. After a random amount of time (at most five minutes it seems) everything
> > moves and is back to normal (i.e. I can login).
> > 5. As I said, I can login to TTY, the second TTY-login will proceed 
> immeaditely
> > to CLI.
> > 
> > 
> > What I have tried now is: 
> > 1. playing with /etc/hosts
> > 2. Disabling hardrake.
> > 3. Disabling sshd (because strange comment on the auth.log about sshd).
> > 
> > This has not made any difference. I wonder whether I should just let it be,
> > since otherwise everything is working and I really have no reason to boot 
> > the
> > machine ever. It is just the feeling that something is not right that 
> > bothers
> > me. Any suggestions welcome!
> > 
> > Saku
> 
> Ok, been reading this thread way too long and am getting more confused.
> Why not start at the bottom and work your way up?
> 
> 1.) Turn off all unnecessary services (especially Shorewall)
> 
> 2.) Change the default runlevel in the /etc/inittab to 3 instead of 5
>     (this gives you a console login)
> 
> 3.) Double check your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf and
> /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 for
> any anomalies or misconfigurations
> 
> I'll assume that you're obtaining an IP address with DHCP, ya? You might
> want to use more than two DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf -
> especially one that is a backbone or primary DNS NOT related to your ISP
> or provider (I use two for Australia and one from Asia)
> 
> Reboot - watch - and once you login to the console, run dmesg and look
> for any aberrations there.
> 
> If all goes well, and you login nicely, run "startx" to fire up your
> default XWindows default GUI; are there any further problems? If not,
> then you can go back to your /etc/inittab and change the runlevel back
> to 5 from 3 so that you have a graphical login session.
> 
> All in all from what I'm gathering here, something is hosed in either
> your overall networking or in the KDE (if that's your default)
> configuration...
> 
> Ok - that's my shot in the dark... 
> 
> --
> stephen kuhn
> mobile: 0410-728-389
> illawarra and regional new south wales
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> weather for you. For every mad scientist who's had a convenient
> thunderstorm just on the night his Great Work is complete and lying on
> the slab, there have been dozens who've sat around aimlessly under the
> peaceful stars while Igor clocks up the overtime. -- (Terry Pratchett &
> Neil Gaiman, Good Omens)
> 
> On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 07:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Once more thank you for your answers (for all who contributed). I do 
> appreciate
> > them, but I have not been able solve this. Let me try to be more clearer 
> > what
> > the problem seems to be:
> > 
> > I have the verbose mode on (or I think so) by default. I see lots of stuff
> > rolling through the screen when I boot (Like "Starting Shorewall:  [OK]"). 
> > It 
> is
> > only when this finishes (after getting the time from the remote server via
> > internet) things hang. The sequence of events varies a little from boot to 
> boot
> > but here is what happens: 
> > 
> > 1. The blue screen with mandrake logo and an hourglass comes up
> > 2. Sometimes I also get the login screen quickly, sometimes don't. If I do 
> > get
> > the login screen I can login, but then everything hangs (with the blue 
> > screen
> > with mandrake logo and hourglass).
> > 3. When I don't get to the login screen I just see the same screen (with 
> hourglass).
> > 4. After a random amount of time (at most five minutes it seems) everything
> > moves and is back to normal (i.e. I can login).
> > 5. As I said, I can login to TTY, the second TTY-login will proceed 
> immeaditely
> > to CLI.
> > 
> > 
> > What I have tried now is: 
> > 1. playing with /etc/hosts
> > 2. Disabling hardrake.
> > 3. Disabling sshd (because strange comment on the auth.log about sshd).
> > 
> > This has not made any difference. I wonder whether I should just let it be,
> > since otherwise everything is working and I really have no reason to boot 
> > the
> > machine ever. It is just the feeling that something is not right that 
> > bothers
> > me. Any suggestions welcome!
> > 
> > Saku
> 
> Ok, been reading this thread way too long and am getting more confused.
> Why not start at the bottom and work your way up?
> 
> 1.) Turn off all unnecessary services (especially Shorewall)
> 
> 2.) Change the default runlevel in the /etc/inittab to 3 instead of 5
>     (this gives you a console login)
> 
> 3.) Double check your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf and
> /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 for
> any anomalies or misconfigurations
> 
> I'll assume that you're obtaining an IP address with DHCP, ya? You might
> want to use more than two DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf -
> especially one that is a backbone or primary DNS NOT related to your ISP
> or provider (I use two for Australia and one from Asia)
> 
> Reboot - watch - and once you login to the console, run dmesg and look
> for any aberrations there.
> 
> If all goes well, and you login nicely, run "startx" to fire up your
> default XWindows default GUI; are there any further problems? If not,
> then you can go back to your /etc/inittab and change the runlevel back
> to 5 from 3 so that you have a graphical login session.
> 
> All in all from what I'm gathering here, something is hosed in either
> your overall networking or in the KDE (if that's your default)
> configuration...
> 
> Ok - that's my shot in the dark... 
> 
> --
> stephen kuhn
> mobile: 0410-728-389
> illawarra and regional new south wales
> -----------------------------------------------
> GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives
> 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses
> Registered Linux User # 267497
> 
> Windows: Where do you want to go today?
> MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow?
> Linux: Are you coming or what?
> 
> -----------------------------------------------
> It wasn't a dark and stormy night. It should have been, but there's the
> weather for you. For every mad scientist who's had a convenient
> thunderstorm just on the night his Great Work is complete and lying on
> the slab, there have been dozens who've sat around aimlessly under the
> peaceful stars while Igor clocks up the overtime. -- (Terry Pratchett &
> Neil Gaiman, Good Omens)
> 
> 
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