On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote:
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> >There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual
> >http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compil
> >ing-kernel-chapter.html
> >
> >But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org
> >kernel
> >and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may
> > not work quite the same.
> >
> >Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun?
> >
> >BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and
> >2.6.10.1-1-1mdk
> >is on the development 'cooker' mirrors.
> >Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they
> >can
> >have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies.
> >
> >derek
> Derek,
> I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go
> very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far
> behind it may fix the problem.
>
> If I can't use the  2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then
> will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks.
>
>               From,
>
>                Mike Chalmers

To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :-

For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel.
For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1

So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers.
(BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see 
them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel')

I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system 
will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences 
between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. 

In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from 
Cooker.  If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone.

Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own 
kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves 
differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard 
kernel)

To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using 
konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install.
For example, go here for Cooker :-
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main

and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :-
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main

The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be 
accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work 
simply remove it again.

What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source.
Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0.

If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software 
your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror 
and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case 
you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your 
computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get 
stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. 

It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by 
changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the 
sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages 
that get stuck in circular dependency.

I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not 
have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI 
drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not 
OpenSource.

derek

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