(I cleaned up the post to make it easier to read. From, Mike)
To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :-
For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1
So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel')
I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system.
In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from
Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone.
Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel)
To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main
and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be
accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work
simply remove it again.
What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0.
If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software
your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror
and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case
you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your
computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get
stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused.
It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by
changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the
sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages
that get stuck in circular dependency.
I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource.
derek
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Derek,
Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake.
There are two ways I want to try:
1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do.
2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though.
So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that.
Thanks,
Mike Chalmers
***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this.
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