On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:14:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hope you have broad shoulders.  I am getting no where and
> it may be your fault. You are helping me, because of  the
> problems you are dealing with.
> Is it possible to have more than one desktop?

Of course. GNU/Linux is all about choice :-)

> KDE bye, bye.  The help section is beautiful. As I get to
> items such as type in the following command, it is unreadable.
> (special code?!!)
> I have no internet hook up on the linux yet.  Checking out
> Gnome, I visited there site.  Is the version you downloaded
> the one that has all the Java capabilities?

Java has nothing to do with the desktop environment. You can get a Java Runtime
Environment at java.sun.com.

> Is it possible to log in as su at localhost instead of user?

Localhost is your computer name, not a user name. You _can_ log in directly as
root (that's the superuser's name), but it is recommended that you do everything
as a user and su ("switch user") to root only when you need to (e.g. when
installing RPMs).

> I am getting lazy.
> I too have the CD's.  I noticed when checking out the rpm's
> installable, installed windows nothing that I have installed is
> showing.
> If the RPM is on your system doing an upgrade manually
> will ignore or override RPM?  I guess we are to assume
> that the RPM and manual installs if done correctly will place
> files in the same locations on the file system?
> I did find a site that explained the drawbacks of using RPM.
> Do you know of a way to get the items off of the CD's
> without using RPM's?

I'm not too sure what you mean here. If you want to look _inside_ RPM packages,
you can do this with mc (Midnight Commander), a console file manager. Tools like
Mandrake's Software Manager, GNOME's gnoRPM and KDE's KPackage all interface
with the RPM system, and so can correctly install RPMs. Upgrading Mandrake as a
whole (e.g. from the CDs) respects the existing RPM database, and upgrades
rather than replaces it. Also, you can use the console RPM app to install
packages.
 
> Kathy
> 
> Peter Rymshaw wrote:
> 
> > The serious problems with gnome seemed to be fixed (I
> > did find still another gnome RPM. Maybe that did it I
> > still can't understand why it was necessary to do it
> > manually, though.
> >
> > --- Peter Rymshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've decided that I like Gnome more than KDE and
> > > want
> > > to learn and begin using it. But I'm having problems
> > > beyond the normal (like getting CD & floppy access
> > > from the desktop or panel. I won't have to manually
> > > monunt/unmount will I?)
> > >
> > > That's not the "problem." When I try to select many
> > > of
> > > the Gnome features, the computer
> > > freezes--completely,
> > > I have to turn the power off and on (which I worry
> > > about each time).
> > >
> > > I've found that some of these problems have gone
> > > away
> > > after I've installed more gnome files from the RPMs
> > > on
> > > CD-ROM, so that might be the heart of the problem
> > > (and
> > > also what I would consider a serious bug in the
> > > program). But I have installed everything that  I
> > > can
> > > find named gnome and there are still problems. (And
> > > shouldn't the initial installation of Gnome from the
> > > install CD have worked even without what I've done?)
> > >
> > > What I've done now is gone to the Ximian signt and
> > > downloaded their gnome files (and also gnuCash which
> > > I
> > > had tried to install earlier without success). I
> > > figure I should install -core- first, then perhaps
> > > -applets-, -libs-, -utils- and the others I found.
> > >
> > > Ximian says that it is based on gnome 1.4, and
> > > instructions are that it is not necessary to first
> > > remove regular gnome installation--that it will
> > > automatically upgrade files. My hopes are that
> > > whatever files are giving me problems will be
> > > replaced
> > > and most if not all of my problems solved. But I
> > > also
> > > seem to remember having read somewhere that
> > > installation of Ximian must be on a sound gnome
> > > base.
> > > Do I need to find and fix my gnome problems before
> > > installing Ximian? That's the key question.
> > >
> > > Sorry to go on so long with this. Anyone know? Just
> > > occurred to me, I should ask Ximian, even though
> > > this
> > > is the free download I'm talking about.
> > >
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> 
> 



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