Amish K. Munshi wrote:

> 
> 
> Randy Kramer wrote:
> 
>>Amish K. Munshi wrote:
>>
>>>    Thanks a lot but I guess I live a very long way away. I am in Mumbai,
>>>India. I guess you might have heard about this city somwhere atleast.
>>>
>>
>>Not until now.  Someday I'll enquire at the post office and see how much
>>it would cost to send some disks there -- I'm curious.
>>
> 
>    Thanks a lot for all this help.
> 
> 
>>
>>>    Also does most of the later version of Linux simiarly slow. I am only
>>>keen on changing from RedHat 7.1 since it is slow. It takes more than 40
>>>sec. to start any application on it. 
>>>
>>
>>In general, speed and memory usage have been two of my biggest problems
>>with Linux compared to Windows (95, which is basically the version I am
>>using (I've installed Win 98 for a few others, and used it for about a
>>year on a laptop).  I think (!) speed has generally decreased and memory
>>use has increased from Mandrake 7.2 to 8.1 given the same hardware. 
>>Mandrake 8.1 is installed on a machine with 256 MB of RAM and is fairly
>>fast until it starts using swap.
>>
>>I do some tricks in Mandrake 7.2 to speed things up.  (Haven't used 8.1
>>enough to decide if I need to use the same tricks.)  One trick is to
>>keep several browser windows open, and not "open link in new window" (or
>>whatever) -- instead, paste the link into an existing open browser
>>window -- it avoids the overhead of opening a new window.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> I usually have two bowsers open so I just switch between them.
> 
> 
>>
>>>Even the Netscape 4.75 with it takes
>>>more than a minute to start. But on Caldera 2.4 the speed is very fast.
>>>Netscape browser takes less than 10 sec. to start. 
>>>
>>
>>Out of curiosity, are you comparing performance with the same versions
>>of software?  (Is it  Netscape *4.75* on both Red Hat 7.2 and Caldera
>>2.4?)
>>
> 
> On Red Hat 7.1 I have uses 4.77 and mostly Caldera has 4.75. I do not 
> have the Cd with me right now else I would have got you the exact version.
> 
>>
>>>I wasn't able to start
>>>RedHat 7.0 on my comp. I am planning to buy the 2 Cd pack from Mandrake but
>>>I want to know if it will work (Seems to be a big problem with Linux) I wish
>>>that while buying my Hardware I knew that Windows was so impossible to use.
>>>I would have made sure that I got a good components that are most
>>>compactible with Linux. 
>>>
>>
>>You might post a list of your hardware here, perhaps others will comment
>>on compatibility.  ("Officially", what you should do is check the
>>various hardware compatibility lists.)
>>
> 
> About my hardware I have a AMD K6-2 500 Mhz.
> 160 MB of RAM (32+128)
> Dlink 56.6 Kbps internal modem (kernel >= 2.4 only supported)
> SIS 530 motherboard with the sis 620 graphics card.
> Basic keyboard from a local company (Microtek).
> And a Logitech mouse.
> And the most leftout Printer Lexmark 1100 inkjet. (I did not find the 
> support for it anywhere).
> Acer CDRom 50x.
> Most of the hardware should be Linux compactible exacpt the problem of 
> Modem and the Printer.
> 
>>
>>>Most are still compactible except the most common
>>>problem of the modem, for some reason the Dlink support have created the
>>>drivers only for the 2.4 kernel.
>>>
>>
>>That probably leaves Mandrake 7.2 "out of the box" out of the running,
>>although I'm sure you could update to a 2.4 kernel.  (There might even
>>be one included -- I run the 2.2.17-21mdk kernel with 7.2 -- never tried
>>anything else.)
>>
> I have never tried upgrading the Kernel it wasn't part of my ability. I 
> have read the documentation but when I tried to install the new kernel 
> on Red Hat 7.0 it had some dependencies problems.
> 
> 
>>
>>>    Also the speed problem is more in KDE 2.0 mainly the GNOME is fast
>>>enough. but it doesn't have a good email client. I liked the KDE email
>>>client a lot and found it to be the best of all after Outlook Express. 
>>>
>>
>>You can run kmail under GNome (IIUC -- I've never tried it).  I've heard
>>from several people that Sylpheed (sp?) is a good email client.  (I
>>continue to use Windows for most email and web browsing, I run a local
>>TWiki on Linux and intend it as my experimentation / learning box.
>>
> 
> I tried running the Kmail under GNOME but it would's show me any mails.
> 
>>
>>
>>>I
>>>tried this software called cscmail but couldn't manage to install it.
>>>    I also tried to use Ximian but it has some problems with the perl
>>>installation.
>>>
>>>    Thanks a lot for your support.
>>>
>>
>>You're welcome!  Good luck!
>>Randy Kramer
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
> 
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> 

The speed problem is kernel 2.4.x through 2.4.10 approximately.  The 
virtual memory volume manager slowed things consideraably.  Wait for 8.2 
or load the earlier mandrakes line 8.0 or 8.1 with kernel 2.2 instead of 
2.4 (Our install does give you a choice).  RH has no better solution, 
and neither does SuSE because it is a _kernel_ issue.

This will not reach the apparent speed of Windows loading Office, 
because on an installation of Windows, most of Office is already in 
memory when you call for it.  We could do a similar trick, but folks 
might object to having half their available memory used for stubs of 
routines applicable to a program they never use, and linux is about 
choice.  Yes, we really could keep most of StarOffice in memory and load 
just the toplevel (or OpenOffice--much easier to do since we have access 
to the source) in a couple of seconda and things would look snappy, but 
we won't unless there is a loud and clear directive that there is much 
demand for such a product.  Then, we'd have to give thought to doing the 
same thing for other Office Suites and making an install for each of them

When you start WordPerfect under windows, it takes much longer to load 
because it is really loading.  And the memory Office might have taken on 
the same machine is not vacated, so it also looks like a memory hog.  It 
is in this fashion that a monopoly appears to have better performance 
without really having better performance, extinguishing the competition 
which (consequently) appears to have the worse performance.

Civileme



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