On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Roger Sherman wrote:

> Sorry to address this to the list, but I'm at my wits end, and it's either 
> this, or find a service center or something to fix this problem for me, 
> and after building this PC, I really don't have the money. 
> 
> I built a PC about two 1/2 months ago (my first attempt at building a PC), 
> and I'm having a booting problem, and a problem with it freezing up, and 
> I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction, 
> troubleshooting wise.
> 
> First of all, the system configuration:
> 
> Abit KG-7 motherboard
> AMD 1800XP
> 512 Meg DDR RAM
> ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 32mg vid card
> SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 Platinum w/Live Drive
> 60 gig Maxtor HD
> generic DVD/CDROM from my old PC, a Compaq presario (which is happily 
> gurgling along as a dedicated FTP server now)
> 
> Now, it's got a boot problem that is baffling to me - to turn this PC on, 
> I have to press the start button, at which point it sounds like it's 
> starting up, the HD and all the fans start spinning, but I don't get the 
> beep that I get with a successful boot, and there's no video output. So, I 
> then have to turn the PC off, unplug it, and plug it back in - at which 
> point it will usually start up again.
> 
> Now, I do mean it will start up again just from plugging it in - I don't 
> have to press the start button. But, sometimes I'll plug it in, and it 
> wont start, at which point I'll have to unplug it, then press start, and 
> it seems to discharge a little power. Then I plug it in again, and it will 
> start. Then I get the beep that it's booting correctly, and I get video 
> output and away we go.
> 
> Now, I'd live with this problem, if it weren't for the system freezes. The 
> first time I turn the PC on each day, there is always a complete freeze of 
> the system - and I totally can't get it unfrozen, either by 
> Control-Alt-Backspace, or Alt-SysRq-r. My only recourse is to press and 
> hold the start button til it shuts down (with this box, you have to hold 
> the start button in for 5 seconds to shut it down, for some reason). Using 
> the reset button doesn't seem to work. 
> 
> This system freeze can happen anywhere, too. Sometimes it'll happen when 
> Mandrake is actually starting up, once it even happened at a command line 
> login (it's set up to start at runlevel 3), but usually it happens about 2 
> - 3 minutes after the system is up and running...usually after I've 
> started X, and am checking my email.
> 
> And I can't let it run all day - the PC actually works great once it gets 
> past the booting and system freeze problems (usually the system freeze 
> problem happens one or two times, and then the PC will run properly), but 
> if I get up and walk away for several hours, then come back, of course the 
> monitor will have gone into power save mode, and I jiggle the mouse to 
> wake it up, but at that point for some reason the PC will have stopped 
> giving video output, and I have to start the whole process over again.
> 
> My ideal situation would be to just leave this PC running 24/7, but that 
> makes it impossible, obviously.
> 
> Now, I've tried several things to fix the problem - a friend told me the 
> symptoms are indicative of a hardware incompatability, so I changed the 
> HD, the CD-ROM (which is why I have the DVD player in there - I originally 
> had a Plextor CD-RW), the power supply, and I took out the SoundBlaster 
> and nic card (a linksys nic), although I put those two back in, since it 
> didn't seem to make a difference. I also tried disconnecting the floppy 
> drive. 
> 
> Before I replaced the HD and CD-RW, they effectively stopped working with 
> this PC, and I'm worried what's currently in there will stop working as 
> well, as every time I make a change, things seem to get a little better, 
> but never really work right, and then things degenerate. I don't have 
> anything else I can swap into this box, so if it continues to degenerate 
> with the current config, I'll have to stop using it until I can afford to 
> take it to a PC doctor.
> 
> Again, sorry for the OT post, but any help anyone can offer would be 
> hugely appreciated.


Ack...forgot to mention - I read somewhere that the KG-7 occasionally 
suffers from wierd voltage spikes caused by the CPU and case fan 
monitoring, so I tried hooking them up to fan connections that didn't use 
the monitoring, which made absolutely no difference.
 

-- 

peace,

Rog

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