Femme wrote:

>I did as you did one thing at a time.  I did the mouse first, letting
>mandrake detect it...then the keyboard :)
>
>Merci to you too Shane.
>
>Now if only we can find out *why* this is happening!
>
>Femme
>
>On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 20:31, shane wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday 20 March 2002 18:43, Miark opened a hailing frequency and 
>>transmitted:
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>>>On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:10:17 -0700, FemmeFatale 
>>>
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>>
>>>1) Plug in a PS/2 mouse, and you're USB mouse.
>>>2) Install 8.2, choosing the appropriate PS/2 mouse.
>>>3) There is no step three. Proceed to the next step.
>>>
>>for me step 3 was reboot, and unplug the ps2 mouse, let mandrake find the 
>>USB, but i think his is most likely to work.... :)
>>
>>-- 
>>At first they burn books, eventually they burn people.
>>
>>shane
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Why?  Well the install kernel has to have very special shape to run 
framebuffer or VGA for the graphics, detect and install drivers for the 
devices (SCSI, some network and so on, and all of this MUST be there 
when you boot off a floppy to do a CDROM install, or a hard disk 
install, or a network install via NFS or http: or ftp:.  So it has to 
fit on a floppy.  

Now the kernel has increased in size squeezing drivers off the floppy. 
 For example, you have to load drivers now for the vintage 1994-95 CD 
drives that attached to sound cards, because we have dropped those 
drivers from the install image.  The point is that ALL the drivers must 
be present from the install image that get used in the install or else 
supplemental drivers must be loaded by hitting F1 at the splash screen 
and typing "expert".

So, the keyboard and mouse worked fine under the influence of your BIOS, 
but as soon as the install kernel took over, it did not have a driver 
for them as USB devices (which means you are probably using a USB 
interface we thought was superceded by the new USB2 drivers). Now, once 
you are up with the full system, with all the modules for the kernel (or 
drivers) available on the hard disk, detection and use is a simple matter.

There are ALREADY some forks in the road.  For example, John Rigby would 
have benefitted greatly from his reported problems under 8.0 by making a 
boot floppy from one of the cdrom.img-BADZxx files in 
/images/alternatives and by installing kernel22 and staying strictly 
away from Reiser partitions.  8.1 users whose machines reacted badly or 
needed older drivers for unupdated Adaptec controllers could boot from 
CD2 and use alternate install kernels.  Another fork for USB alone is a 
lot of work and will not be implemented unless this affects a lot of 
machines.  If the proliferation of kernel versions gets out of hand, we 
won't be able to maintain them all.

That is how, and the "why" is 1.44Mb.  We could support 1.72 Mb, but the 
number of drives that can format those is not 100% and data loss is 
higher, so we have chosen not to.  (In fact some older floppy drives 
will physically break trying to format a 1.72Mb floppy, and a lot of 
them will fail to format it under windows but do fine under linux.... 
 And a lot of our users are first-time linux users who start out only 
with the other OS.


Civileme



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