Hello folks, You know, it *IS* fascinating to read the comments of those few tunnel-visioned people on this list who continually make it difficult for people outside of their tiny worlds. I would love to take the candy/money off the baby - but my mother won't let me do those sort of things any more ........ :-) For those many others on this list who are not egobound to the degree that the anal pressure creates blindness, please ignore the Flame-babies and READ my post : As always, I supply the evidence. I even gave the Site address and the Forum where it is fully admitted by the Company and some of the victims - one of whom contacted me and said that he, as a professional psychologist was questioning his own grip on reality after the experience ........... which was only matched by ferocity of rudeness he experienced when attempting to learn about Linux .
I was able to assure him as a professional peer - my own background is thirty years of clinical and industrial psychology - that what he experienced was "normal" Internet behaviour. Sad, but true. The inescapable idiot percentage have great advantage out in the Cyberbog and all one can do is remember that they are a tiny, tiny percentage. The bulk of the good people out there are simply too afraid of them to say much. It is both my experience and opinion that the "Open Source" world is still dominated by anti-social people with zero social skills and it shows in their rage. A simple example would be to go and say that you don't believe in the rights of the Cyber-Nazis currently dominating the so-called anti-spam movement, to tell YOU what you may or may not LEGALLY receive, in one of the lists out there. Their intention is to somehow gain a little power. Simple. That is the motivation of all fanatics - to gain that power and then use it to inflict the pain on others that they feel. Well, there is my ever-increasing value $A 2 cents worth. Real people, ignore the Flamebabies -go investigate FOR YOURSELF. It will do two things: show you what sort of anti-social deviants ( meaning "not like most") are out here in the Cyberbog and help you see the dangers. If you have a Jetway Board especially, or have a similar program investigate! See the other posted note about Nortons ( Long avoided by the real pros in the Doze world) Here is the address again. Go read the forums there! http://www.gotogs.com Cheers! John Rigby NB: Who had no trouble installing other versions of Linux - just feels that they are all still immature for real use in my own *commercial* world activities. BUT I can see it all coming together. Lycoris and Lindows are on the track that I have been espousing in Linux for the last 100 years. K.I.S.S. If Mandrake took my advice of years ago and split into two factions, fanatic and user, Mandrake would/could own the arena. All it takes is a simple Golden Rule: No Black Screen! The Command prompt is no place for the other 99.9993% actual Users in the real world. With Best Wishes To All Those Struggling To Make A Difference, ------------------------------- At 10:32 PM 20/06/02, you wrote: >On Thursday 20 June 2002 11:09 am, you wrote: > > Michael Adams wrote: > > >On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 03:59, robin wrote: > > >>Grand Slammer wrote: > > >>>Hello folks, > > >>>Although having given up on M*+ for now, I had left a multiboot to a > > >>>friendly version of Lux (Lycoris - it works, but....) installed on my > > >>>system. > > >>>I had even changed Motherboards to try and get M8 to work and > > >>>installed a Jetway - originally suggested by Civileme I think. ( Whose > > >>>personal email address keeps bouncing - maybe I'm on his non-no list > > >>> now) > > >>> > > >>>The destructive program (Trojan really!) comes bundled with Jetway > > >>>Moboards and the product apparently self-installs with the Jetway and > > >>>is called "Crush Recovery" would you believe - I thought it was a > > >>>simple Chinglish blunder at the time(!) and although could not figure > > >>>out how to remove an option it installed on the boot-up screen to > > >>>install it, *I never activated it*. > > >>>THEN two days ago, it suddenly announced that I was out of disk space > > >>>( wrong -25 gigs avail) and offered the following options: > > >>>"Save & Restore" "or I think, "delete". > > >>>I took the safe road. Saving is always a good idea............... > > >>> > > >>>It then deleted *irretrievably*, via trashing the MBR, everything on > > >>>my system. > > >> > > >>My condolences. As I posted some time ago, Norton Utilities did a > > >>similar thing to my HD, though at least it kept the Windows partiton it > > >>had "optimised" (lucky, since I too use Windows as a backup, though not > > >>for anything crucial). Windows itself is too feeble to do much to your > > >>system other than write over the MBR if you reinstall (and you can > > >>always get back into Linux with a bootdisk or CD-ROM) but some > > >>third-party software is extremely dangerous. > > >> > > >>BTW, John, your mail somehow got filtered into my "spam" folder, which > > >>is odd, because it only does that to some domains I've received spam > > >>from in the past (not yours) and anything from Korea. > > >> > > >>Sir Robin > > > > > >Oh what short memories we have. I beleive John Rigby caused quite a stir > > > when he was posting here not three months ago and i would not be > > > surprised if you had his mail included in your spam list > > > > Nah - I'd only have done that if his posts were in HTML with animated > > GIFs ;-) > > > > Sir Robin >yep, and I would be as suprised as hell if the "real" culprit was software >that came with the mobo, more than likely he had the bios recognizing his >hard drive as a 2 gig dos 6.2 fdisked, since he has never been able to >install a real OS, (it might turn him into a nurd, [or was it a geek, I >forget] you know). Either that or he had a trojon or virus that did screw up >the MBR, and is just blaming the software that he "thought" was running. my >bet too, (for $ 200.00 US, I gotta make HIM pay) I could have gotten his >hardrive info back just by using diskdrake. the program prolly just set his >hard drive to autoselect in his BIOS and it choose the correct settings for a >modern OS. >just my .02$ > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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