Mike,
I daresay most of the HD's I know of actually don't leak
oil.... Sorry to disappoint.
:-)
I'm going to take a detailed look at it myself before I make
any further decisions - but I have to admit my first thought was to
take a breaker bar and beat some sense into it.
Wasn't my best first thought....
:-)
-Joey
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:24 AM, <mike21...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Kyle,
> Hey, that's a foul and not very funny. I call shenanigans!
> Ok maybe a little funny. LOL
>
> But seriously, I'm not a gearhead either, but from the work & money you
> already have in it, it sounds like a rebuild might not be such a bad thing.
> You could open her up a bit for a little more by boring her out a bit, or
> just have it rebuilt as is. Perhaps looking for a replacement engine is a
> better way to go.
>
> Or you could buy some Harley emblems for it, they leak oil too right...
> you'd fit right in... :-O
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle Munz <kyle...@gmail.com>
> To: nighthawk_lovers <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 11:14 am
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well it appears I'm hanging up my Leather
> Jacket
>
> Have you tried dipping the bike in Seafoam™ yet?
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks though!
>> :-)
>> -Joey
>>
>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:01 AM, paul annen <greenzer...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > o, sorry...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Paul,
>> >> Wrong end of the right coast :-)
>> >> I'm in central Maine.
>> >> -Joey
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, paul annen <greenzer...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > joey, you are in south florida right? if you can trailer it up to the
>> >> > orlando area i might have a guy that wont charge you an arm and a leg
>> >> > to
>> >> > split the case and get you rebuilt..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I picked up this bike a year ago this spring - put 6,500 miles on it
>> >> >> last year. At the end of the season, I had the entire rear brake
>> >> >> system replaced - the rotor (bad when I bought it, but didn't
>> >> >> realize
>> >> >> HOW bad) had eaten into the piston behind the brake caliper. Whoops.
>> >> >> Even had the master cylinder replaced - as the shop claimed they
>> >> >> couldn't get it to pump up after the new rotor went on. Evidently
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> rear tire that was also replaced at the same time was actually the
>> >> >> wrong size - lead to handling issues that I couldn't pinpoint since
>> >> >> the rear tire was actually hitting on the frame of the bike under
>> >> >> cornering. (Rear of the bike would just slide sideways with no
>> >> >> warning
>> >> >> - or at least thats how it felt, the tire itself never broke loose,
>> >> >> just felt like something was broken in the suspension)
>> >> >> At the start of last season I installed (with considerable
>> >> >> help from my Dad) an electronic ignition system to replace the
>> >> >> faulty
>> >> >> points.
>> >> >> At no point did I think I was running a bike with really bad
>> >> >> carb problems. At the end of last year when I started getting a
>> >> >> slight
>> >> >> knocking sound something wasn't quite right. Smart money was on the
>> >> >> valves being out of adjustment One look at the shimming procedure on
>> >> >> this bike was enough to make my eyes cross. I elected to haul it
>> >> >> into
>> >> >> a shop for that. A large part of that decision was finding out what
>> >> >> the local Suzuki dealer was going to charge me for the shims.
>> >> >> So I rode the Suzuki into the shop about a half hour away
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> dropped it off.
>> >> >> Most of this next bit is what I was told.
>> >> >> Unfortunately my own mouth got me into trouble and I asked
>> >> >> them to 'fix everything'. Yeah. Whoops. Well after the valve
>> >> >> adjustment job was done, they figured out that it wasn't running
>> >> >> terribly well - even after the valves and ignition timing were
>> >> >> adjusted. Making the logical assumption that after the spark plugs
>> >> >> were changed (I asked for that) the carbs must be the problem. When
>> >> >> the carbs were removed and disassembled - a large amount of rust was
>> >> >> found - jamming into the jets I understand. After several days in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> dunk tank and four carb rebuild kits - they came out all shiny and
>> >> >> new.
>> >> >> While all of this was going on an oil leak was discovered.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> was told about it - but I had a hard time believing that an oil leak
>> >> >> so bad that it couldn't be ridden would have spontaneously
>> >> >> developed.
>> >> >> I guess I'm wrong - perhaps the winter in the cold shed opened up a
>> >> >> seal.
>> >> >> At some point I'm going to give it a very detailed once
>> >> >> over after I've checked the oil level and see if I can put my
>> >> >> eyeballs
>> >> >> on where the problem lies.
>> >> >> -Joey
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:08 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > so what did the dealer do for 8xx.xx bucks then!? so you say it
>> >> >> > didnt
>> >> >> > leak
>> >> >> > when you took it in there? or is this a new/used bike you just
>> >> >> > picked
>> >> >> > up?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> All,
>> >> >> >> Allow me to clarify.
>> >> >> >> The oil leak is so bad that when I rolled into my
>> >> >> >> driveway
>> >> >> >> after 30 miles there was enough burning on the exhaust that it
>> >> >> >> appeared there was a white cloud coming from the right hand side
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> the bike.
>> >> >> >> It appears to be burning on the #4 exhaust pipe. Upon
>> >> >> >> further inspection the entire right hand side of the bike has oil
>> >> >> >> splatters, along with my right pants leg.
>> >> >> >> The oil currently in it is 10w40 Kawasaki branded oil,
>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> when I rode it in there it had Castrol in it - also 10w40 JASO/
>> >> >> >> MA
>> >> >> >> spec. According to the dealer it was leaking when I rode it in.
>> >> >> >> Ever since I've owned it I've had to add oil
>> >> >> >> periodically
>> >> >> >> but come on - its got 56,000 miles on it and its 34 years old -
>> >> >> >> it's
>> >> >> >> gonna use a little oil.
>> >> >> >> As to the amount - all I can tell you is that the
>> >> >> >> sight
>> >> >> >> glass (which BTW is a HORRIBLE way to check oil level in my
>> >> >> >> opinion)
>> >> >> >> was completely empty when I got home - in all fairness I'm sure
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> bike wasn't exactly level, but even where it was sitting it
>> >> >> >> should
>> >> >> >> have read at least something.
>> >> >> >> My Girlfriend, who was following me, made the comment
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> she thought she smelled a distinct burning smell but actually
>> >> >> >> thought
>> >> >> >> it might have been her car.
>> >> >> >> The irony of the whole thing - that 30 mile journey was
>> >> >> >> probably the best 30 miles I've had on that bike. I had no idea
>> >> >> >> how
>> >> >> >> badly the carbs were crummed up - it would appear that not long
>> >> >> >> after
>> >> >> >> I bought it I must have sucked some rust into the carbs and
>> >> >> >> partially
>> >> >> >> blocked one or more of the jets. It has never run better since
>> >> >> >> I've
>> >> >> >> owned it.
>> >> >> >> Still frustrated - but I haven't been back out to look
>> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> it since last night when this was discovered.
>> >> >> >> -Joey
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Allen Thomas
>> >> >> >> <althomas...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Sorry to hear that Joey. I'm assuming the oil is leaking
>> >> >> >> > externally
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > not being burned up in the motor, correct. Where does the leak
>> >> >> >> > seem
>> >> >> >> > to be
>> >> >> >> > coming from? I know of a couple places where they are known to
>> >> >> >> > leak.
>> >> >> >> > Front
>> >> >> >> > sprocket seal, lower rear head gasket, valve covers, and also
>> >> >> >> > there
>> >> >> >> > are some
>> >> >> >> > o-rings people suggest replacing when doing a valve job because
>> >> >> >> > they
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > leak oil into the exhaust. Were the people at GSR any help?
>> >> >> >> > They
>> >> >> >> > would
>> >> >> >> > probably know more bike specific stuff, but I'm willing to help
>> >> >> >> > figure it
>> >> >> >> > out.
>> >> >> >> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> > From: Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> >> >> >> > Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:52:29
>> >> >> >> > To: <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
>> >> >> >> > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> >> >> >> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well it appears I'm hanging up my
>> >> >> >> > Leather
>> >> >> >> > Jacket
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > All,
>> >> >> >> > I really wanted to tell you all the good news:
>> >> >> >> > I picked up my GS-1000 from the dealer I had working on
>> >> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> >> > Here is the bad news - well - two fold: One they had it
>> >> >> >> > over
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > month and two the bill was $869.
>> >> >> >> > Here is the even worse news:
>> >> >> >> > There is an oil leak so bad coming from some place they
>> >> >> >> > couldn't
>> >> >> >> > identify. To be fair I'm not exactly sure - but it appears to
>> >> >> >> > have
>> >> >> >> > leaked out and burned at least two quarts of oil on a 30 mile
>> >> >> >> > ride
>> >> >> >> > home from the dealer.
>> >> >> >> > The dealers opinion is that they cannot identify it
>> >> >> >> > without
>> >> >> >> > pulling the engine - possibly splitting the case - and
>> >> >> >> > figuring
>> >> >> >> > out
>> >> >> >> > what is leaking.
>> >> >> >> > The problem is - I have no place to work on the bike, not
>> >> >> >> > enough knowledge of the internals and (evidently) not enough
>> >> >> >> > money
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > be able to afford someone else to fix it for me.
>> >> >> >> > I have now doubled my purchase price in repairs - and I
>> >> >> >> > can't
>> >> >> >> > ride it.
>> >> >> >> > Thoughts? Suggestions?
>> >> >> >> > Graham - want another GS-1000? Allen?
>> >> >> >> > -Joey
>> >> >> >> > PS - No I'm not happy. :-(
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
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