I was only messing with the Harley comment. Truth be told I'm considering 
getting one...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mike,
>        I daresay most of the HD's I know of actually don't leak
>oil.... Sorry to disappoint.
>        :-)
>        I'm going to take a detailed look at it myself before I make
>any further decisions - but I have to admit my first thought was to
>take a breaker bar and beat some sense into it.
>        Wasn't my best first thought....
>        :-)
>         -Joey
>
>On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:24 AM,  <mike21...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Kyle,
>> Hey, that's a foul and not very funny. I call shenanigans!
>> Ok maybe a little funny. LOL
>>
>> But seriously, I'm not a gearhead either, but from the work & money you
>> already have in it, it sounds like a rebuild might not be such a bad thing.
>> You could open her up a bit for a little more by boring her out a bit, or
>> just have it rebuilt as is. Perhaps looking for a replacement engine is a
>> better way to go.
>>
>> Or you could buy some Harley emblems for it, they leak oil too right...
>> you'd fit right in... :-O
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kyle Munz <kyle...@gmail.com>
>> To: nighthawk_lovers <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 11:14 am
>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well it appears I'm hanging up my Leather
>> Jacket
>>
>> Have you tried dipping the bike in Seafoam™ yet?
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks though!
>>>    :-)
>>>    -Joey
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:01 AM, paul annen <greenzer...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > o, sorry...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Paul,
>>> >>         Wrong end of the right coast :-)
>>> >>         I'm in central Maine.
>>> >>           -Joey
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, paul annen <greenzer...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > joey, you are in south florida right? if you can trailer it up to the
>>> >> > orlando area i might have a guy that wont charge you an arm and a leg
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > split the case and get you rebuilt..
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I picked up this bike a year ago this spring - put 6,500 miles on it
>>> >> >> last year. At the end of the season, I had the entire rear brake
>>> >> >> system replaced - the rotor (bad when I bought it, but didn't
>>> >> >> realize
>>> >> >> HOW bad) had eaten into the piston behind the brake caliper. Whoops.
>>> >> >> Even had the master cylinder replaced - as the shop claimed they
>>> >> >> couldn't get it to pump up after the new rotor went on. Evidently
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> rear tire that was also replaced at the same time was actually the
>>> >> >> wrong size - lead to handling issues that I couldn't pinpoint since
>>> >> >> the rear tire was actually hitting on the frame of the bike under
>>> >> >> cornering. (Rear of the bike would just slide sideways with no
>>> >> >> warning
>>> >> >> - or at least thats how it felt, the tire itself never broke loose,
>>> >> >> just felt like something was broken in the suspension)
>>> >> >>         At the start of last season I installed (with considerable
>>> >> >> help from my Dad) an electronic ignition system to replace the
>>> >> >> faulty
>>> >> >> points.
>>> >> >>         At no point did I think I was running a bike with really bad
>>> >> >> carb problems. At the end of last year when I started getting a
>>> >> >> slight
>>> >> >> knocking sound something wasn't quite right. Smart money was on the
>>> >> >> valves being out of adjustment One look at the shimming procedure on
>>> >> >> this bike was enough to make my eyes cross. I elected to haul it
>>> >> >> into
>>> >> >> a shop for that. A large part of that decision was finding out what
>>> >> >> the local Suzuki dealer was going to charge me for the shims.
>>> >> >>         So I rode the Suzuki into the shop about a half hour away
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> dropped it off.
>>> >> >>         Most of this next bit is what I was told.
>>> >> >>         Unfortunately my own mouth got me into trouble and I asked
>>> >> >> them to 'fix everything'. Yeah. Whoops. Well after the valve
>>> >> >> adjustment job was done, they figured out that it wasn't running
>>> >> >> terribly well - even after the valves and ignition timing were
>>> >> >> adjusted. Making the logical assumption that after the spark plugs
>>> >> >> were changed (I asked for that) the carbs must be the problem. When
>>> >> >> the carbs were removed and disassembled - a large amount of rust was
>>> >> >> found - jamming into the jets I understand. After several days in
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> dunk tank and four carb rebuild kits - they came out all shiny and
>>> >> >> new.
>>> >> >>          While all of this was going on an oil leak was discovered.
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> was told about it - but I had a hard time believing that an oil leak
>>> >> >> so bad that it couldn't be ridden would have spontaneously
>>> >> >> developed.
>>> >> >> I guess I'm wrong - perhaps the winter in the cold shed opened up a
>>> >> >> seal.
>>> >> >>           At some point I'm going to give it a very detailed once
>>> >> >> over after I've checked the oil level and see if I can put my
>>> >> >> eyeballs
>>> >> >> on where the problem lies.
>>> >> >>           -Joey
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:08 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > so what did the dealer do for 8xx.xx bucks then!?  so you say it
>>> >> >> > didnt
>>> >> >> > leak
>>> >> >> > when you took it in there?  or is this a new/used bike you just
>>> >> >> > picked
>>> >> >> > up?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> All,
>>> >> >> >>            Allow me to clarify.
>>> >> >> >>            The oil leak is so bad that when I rolled into my
>>> >> >> >> driveway
>>> >> >> >> after 30 miles there was enough burning on the exhaust that it
>>> >> >> >> appeared there was a white cloud coming from the right hand side
>>> >> >> >> of
>>> >> >> >> the bike.
>>> >> >> >>             It appears to be burning on the #4 exhaust pipe. Upon
>>> >> >> >> further inspection the entire right hand side of the bike has oil
>>> >> >> >> splatters, along with my right pants leg.
>>> >> >> >>            The oil currently in it is 10w40 Kawasaki branded oil,
>>> >> >> >> but
>>> >> >> >> when I rode it in there it had Castrol in it - also 10w40 JASO/
>>> >> >> >> MA
>>> >> >> >> spec. According to the dealer it was leaking when I rode it in.
>>> >> >> >>            Ever since I've owned it I've had to add oil
>>> >> >> >> periodically
>>> >> >> >> but come on - its got 56,000 miles on it and its 34 years old -
>>> >> >> >> it's
>>> >> >> >> gonna use a little oil.
>>> >> >> >>            As to the amount - all I can tell you is that the
>>> >> >> >> sight
>>> >> >> >> glass (which BTW is a HORRIBLE way to check oil level in my
>>> >> >> >> opinion)
>>> >> >> >> was completely empty when I got home - in all fairness I'm sure
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> bike wasn't exactly level, but even where it was sitting it
>>> >> >> >> should
>>> >> >> >> have read at least something.
>>> >> >> >>            My Girlfriend, who was following me, made the comment
>>> >> >> >> that
>>> >> >> >> she thought she smelled a distinct burning smell but actually
>>> >> >> >> thought
>>> >> >> >> it might have been her car.
>>> >> >> >>           The irony of the whole thing - that 30 mile journey was
>>> >> >> >> probably the best 30 miles I've had on that bike. I had no idea
>>> >> >> >> how
>>> >> >> >> badly the carbs were crummed up - it would appear that not long
>>> >> >> >> after
>>> >> >> >> I bought it I must have sucked some rust into the carbs and
>>> >> >> >> partially
>>> >> >> >> blocked one or more of the jets. It has never run better since
>>> >> >> >> I've
>>> >> >> >> owned it.
>>> >> >> >>           Still frustrated - but I haven't been back out to look
>>> >> >> >> at
>>> >> >> >> it since last night when this was discovered.
>>> >> >> >>            -Joey
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Allen Thomas
>>> >> >> >> <althomas...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > Sorry to hear that Joey. I'm assuming the oil is leaking
>>> >> >> >> > externally
>>> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> > not being burned up in the motor, correct. Where does the leak
>>> >> >> >> > seem
>>> >> >> >> > to be
>>> >> >> >> > coming from? I know of a couple places where they are known to
>>> >> >> >> > leak.
>>> >> >> >> > Front
>>> >> >> >> > sprocket seal, lower rear head gasket, valve covers, and also
>>> >> >> >> > there
>>> >> >> >> > are some
>>> >> >> >> > o-rings people suggest replacing when doing a valve job because
>>> >> >> >> > they
>>> >> >> >> > can
>>> >> >> >> > leak oil into the exhaust. Were the people at GSR any help?
>>> >> >> >> > They
>>> >> >> >> > would
>>> >> >> >> > probably know more bike specific stuff, but I'm willing to help
>>> >> >> >> > figure it
>>> >> >> >> > out.
>>> >> >> >> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >> > From: Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> >> >> >> > Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:52:29
>>> >> >> >> > To: <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
>>> >> >> >> > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> >> >> >> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well it appears I'm hanging up my
>>> >> >> >> > Leather
>>> >> >> >> > Jacket
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > All,
>>> >> >> >> >      I really wanted to tell you all the good news:
>>> >> >> >> >       I picked up my GS-1000 from the dealer I had working on
>>> >> >> >> > it.
>>> >> >> >> >      Here is the bad news - well - two fold: One they had it
>>> >> >> >> > over
>>> >> >> >> > a
>>> >> >> >> > month and two the bill was $869.
>>> >> >> >> >      Here is the even worse news:
>>> >> >> >> >      There is an oil leak so bad coming from some place they
>>> >> >> >> > couldn't
>>> >> >> >> > identify. To be fair I'm not exactly sure - but it appears to
>>> >> >> >> > have
>>> >> >> >> > leaked out and burned at least two quarts of oil on a 30 mile
>>> >> >> >> > ride
>>> >> >> >> > home from the dealer.
>>> >> >> >> >       The dealers opinion is that they cannot identify it
>>> >> >> >> > without
>>> >> >> >> > pulling the engine - possibly splitting the case -  and
>>> >> >> >> > figuring
>>> >> >> >> > out
>>> >> >> >> > what is leaking.
>>> >> >> >> >       The problem is - I have no place to work on the bike, not
>>> >> >> >> > enough knowledge of the internals and (evidently) not enough
>>> >> >> >> > money
>>> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> >> > be able to afford someone else to fix it for me.
>>> >> >> >> >        I have now doubled my purchase price in repairs - and I
>>> >> >> >> > can't
>>> >> >> >> > ride it.
>>> >> >> >> >        Thoughts? Suggestions?
>>> >> >> >> >         Graham - want another GS-1000? Allen?
>>> >> >> >> >        -Joey
>>> >> >> >> > PS - No I'm not happy. :-(
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > --
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