I second Javier's opinion of a NH650, if you are vertically challenged I'd take that over a shadow any day. No valve maintenance, cheap tires and insurance, shaft drive, plenty of get up and go, light handling, heavy enough to not get blown around. If you can deal with the height then a 700S would be my first choice for all the same reasons. After that a 90's NH750 or something like a GS850 if you don't mind doing some maintenance. GS has shaft but needs valve jobs, NH is chain but doesn't need valve jobs. Now if you don't mind maintenance costs, and want sporty then get a large displacement sport bike and call it a day.
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Christy Deering <christydeer...@gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks for the advice, Joey! I wouldn't bother getting a bike with the > same size engine I have now, nor would I try to stay with a lightweight > bike. > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> To Echo Kyle's comment about V-Twins: >> The common complaint I have heard and by the volume of them on >> Craigslist small displacement V-Twins don't work well. Mine is a 1300cc - >> and it has plenty of oomph - including low end torque. Its shocking to >> people that have grown up with or have ridden inline twin and four cylinder >> bikes - 1300cc puts you into the Hayabusa category and top speeds that >> approach or exceed ridiculous. In a V-Twin however, 1300 cc is reasonable, >> powerful, and actually on the small end. The new 113 Cubic Inch Indian >> engine works out to a little over 1850cc's. That is also the same size as a >> modern GoldWing. >> There are many 650, 700 and 750cc V-twins of multiple >> manufacturers out there. My advice - particularly if you are looking at a >> Yamaha, is to bypass these lower displacement models. There is a perception >> out there that a bigger V-Twin (For instance the 1100 cc vs. the 650 cc of >> the previous Yamaha generation) is heavier, harder to deal with and more >> expensive on insurance. My experience has been that the insurance cost is >> not based upon displacement in the Cruiser category, so that is not an >> issue for most. If we take the 650 Yamaha vs. the 1100 Yamaha, the bikes >> are almost identical - frame - tank - accessories etc are almost all bolt >> on. The transmission is often the same. The only difference is the size of >> the engine - but the block is the same physical size and weight. The retail >> price is not usually significantly different, and based on the number of >> them available at dealers and on Craigslist and other classifieds - there >> is a huge number of people who buy them, run them, and then get rid of >> them. Either to upgrade to a larger bike or because they don't like >> motorcycling based on that experience with the bike. >> I've also heard that people say that the smaller displacement >> bikes get better gas mileage. I'm not entirely sure that is true - I >> understand that its theoretically correct, smaller engine, less fuel. In >> practice, if you've got two bikes of the same weight, the one with the >> smaller engine will work harder to get that bike moving - requiring more >> fuel. I've also heard that the smaller bikes need to be shifted down more >> often to accelerate, which of course means you are turning up the engine to >> get power out of it, and using more fuel. >> Just a couple of thoughts. >> I've heard bad things about the 250 Rebel - that the Kite In the >> Wind on the highway effect is not unique to the 250 Nighthawk. I can't say >> how a 650, 700 or 750 cc cruiser would perform, but in my opinion, I >> wouldn't rule out a bigger bike - you might be happier with it. >> -Joey >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> yea good choice as always there Hondas and run forever. so from a >>> dealer or craigslist? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Christy Deering < >>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Probably used - cheaper, less likely to make me cry when they get >>>> damaged...:) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:51 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> well you wont know till you test ride one? are you looking at new or >>>>> used? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Christy Deering < >>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think so :) I'm getting tired of feeling like a kite in the wind >>>>>> whenever it gets gusty out here in Texas. *sigh* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, nighthawkin >>>>>> <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was gonna say just that. a shadow 600 would be good to but they >>>>>>> are chain. I refuse to have a chain bike but that's just me. yea any >>>>>>> 750 >>>>>>> shadow would be good. if your ready for the extra weight? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Christy Deering < >>>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dunno...wouldn't mind trying out a 750 Shadow... :) What would you >>>>>>>> recommend? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:34 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ahh... well what are you thinking of getting? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Christy Deering < >>>>>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here's the thing. If they total the bike (which is what happened >>>>>>>>>> when my last car got smashed into on the street) I'll just use the >>>>>>>>>> money to >>>>>>>>>> put a down payment on another bike. A bigger one. :) Last time, the >>>>>>>>>> money I >>>>>>>>>> got for my old beater was only enough to buy a scooter off >>>>>>>>>> Craigslist. This >>>>>>>>>> time, it would probably be the same amount (or even less, maybe) but >>>>>>>>>> I'd be >>>>>>>>>> looking for a more expensive vehicle I can buy from a dealership, >>>>>>>>>> probably. >>>>>>>>>> Sigh. Texas hasn't been kind to my vehicles so far. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Rmj < >>>>>>>>>> ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Be careful. The total damage may be more than the bike is >>>>>>>>>>> worth, in which they will total it. Had that done to a car I drive >>>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>>>> Gave me some cash & I got it fixed. I'm still hurt that the car now >>>>>>>>>>> has a >>>>>>>>>>> salvage title >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ross >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> From: Christy Deering <christydeer...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 4/17/2013 1:21 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ode to parking lots. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, everyone! I appreciate all the comments and help! I >>>>>>>>>>> will definitely let y'all know how it works out. Right now I'm just >>>>>>>>>>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>> on an inspector to call to set up a time to come take a look at the >>>>>>>>>>> damage >>>>>>>>>>> on the Nighthawk, after which I'll have my answer. I have a $500 >>>>>>>>>>> deductible, so we'll see what the damage amounts to...dent in tank, >>>>>>>>>>> bend >>>>>>>>>>> clutch lever, scrapes, broken plastic cover, helmet...*crosses >>>>>>>>>>> fingers it's >>>>>>>>>>> over $500 so she gets some compensation* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Rmj < >>>>>>>>>>> ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Christy, >>>>>>>>>>>> Let us know how all this works out. Lot of lessons for all of >>>>>>>>>>>> us to learn >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ross >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rick, Scituate, MA, 82 650 NH <gibbon...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 4/17/2013 12:29 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ode to parking lots. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention which store you were in but I'd ask if >>>>>>>>>>>> they have cameras. My car got hit in a parking winter before last >>>>>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>>>> was able to find the other driver. This was in a company's >>>>>>>>>>>> parking lot and >>>>>>>>>>>> their security was able to give me a plate number in about 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> hours. I went >>>>>>>>>>>> to the police department and they made the first call. Turned out >>>>>>>>>>>> it was >>>>>>>>>>>> an employee of the company and they started off denying everything >>>>>>>>>>>> but came >>>>>>>>>>>> round after a day or two. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it varies, these folks keep the data a week. After >>>>>>>>>>>> that it is deleted. So I'd check soon. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope it was a car, I'd hate to think we'd do that to each other. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck, >>>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25:01 AM UTC-4, Christy Deering >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So I decided to stop by the store last night after work for a >>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of things for dinner. Parked Gladys (the CB250) by a >>>>>>>>>>>>> lovely Honda >>>>>>>>>>>>> CBR 250, in a specially marked motorcycle parking area where cars >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't go, >>>>>>>>>>>>> made sure everything was in order, kick stand out all the way, >>>>>>>>>>>>> helmet >>>>>>>>>>>>> locked, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Came out from the store about 15 minutes later to Gladys on >>>>>>>>>>>>> her side, leaking gas onto the pavement, CBR gone, but no real >>>>>>>>>>>>> idea why >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gladys should be lying down at a time like this. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In the 90+ degree heat, hoisted all 350 lbs of her back on her >>>>>>>>>>>>> feet, straightened out the mirror/etc, noticed the crack in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> left >>>>>>>>>>>>> plastic cover (probably caused by the bike falling on the helmet) >>>>>>>>>>>>> along >>>>>>>>>>>>> with numerous scratches...tried to start her up, she wouldn't go, >>>>>>>>>>>>> sat there >>>>>>>>>>>>> a while thinking maybe the engine was flooded and waiting would >>>>>>>>>>>>> help...it >>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't...finally got off the bike, threw all my gear on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> ground (christ >>>>>>>>>>>>> it was hot), took the seat off, pulled out the manual, followed >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions for clearing a flooded motor, and she started up >>>>>>>>>>>>> again >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Huzzah!). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To my heat and irritation addled brain, the instructions for >>>>>>>>>>>>> clearing a flooded engine sounded like this: "Take off your left >>>>>>>>>>>>> glove, >>>>>>>>>>>>> whistle five and a half times, run the engine on and off for >>>>>>>>>>>>> seven half >>>>>>>>>>>>> past nine minutes, turn everything *completely *off, hold a >>>>>>>>>>>>> seance, ask God for help, when he doesn't answer, turn bike >>>>>>>>>>>>> ninety-eight >>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees to your left, put your left glove back on, compose a >>>>>>>>>>>>> sonnet, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> then go out and buy a new bike." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 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