That's what I've got, a couple of old Honda bikes in the garage and a
Toyota tacoma with 299,274 *gentle* miles in the driveway. Yep, living the
dream...


-Kyle


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Christy Deering
<christydeer...@gmail.com>wrote:

> The goal is to pocket the money for the post part, but eventually put it
> towards a new bike/truck. The glow of only owning a motorcycle gets dimmed
> on cold, windy, rainy days, like today, and I just wish for a second
> vehicle like a dented old toyota pick up truck.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> you could pocket the money to and fix your nh?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Christy Deering <
>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the advice, Joey! I wouldn't bother getting a bike with the
>>> same size engine I have now, nor would I try to stay with a lightweight
>>> bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> To Echo Kyle's comment about V-Twins:
>>>>         The common complaint I have heard and by the volume of them on
>>>> Craigslist small displacement V-Twins don't work well. Mine is a 1300cc -
>>>> and it has plenty of oomph - including low end torque. Its shocking to
>>>> people that have grown up with or have ridden inline twin and four cylinder
>>>> bikes - 1300cc puts you into the Hayabusa category and top speeds that
>>>> approach or exceed ridiculous. In a V-Twin however, 1300 cc is reasonable,
>>>> powerful, and actually on the small end. The new 113 Cubic Inch Indian
>>>> engine works out to a little over 1850cc's. That is also the same size as a
>>>> modern GoldWing.
>>>>         There are many 650, 700 and 750cc V-twins of multiple
>>>> manufacturers out there. My advice - particularly if you are looking at a
>>>> Yamaha, is to bypass these lower displacement models. There is a perception
>>>> out there that a bigger V-Twin (For instance the 1100 cc vs. the 650 cc of
>>>> the previous Yamaha generation) is heavier, harder to deal with and more
>>>> expensive on insurance. My experience has been that the insurance cost is
>>>> not based upon displacement in the Cruiser category, so that is not an
>>>> issue for most. If we take the 650 Yamaha vs. the 1100 Yamaha, the bikes
>>>> are almost identical - frame - tank - accessories etc are almost all bolt
>>>> on. The transmission is often the same. The only difference is the size of
>>>> the engine - but the block is the same physical size and weight. The retail
>>>> price is not usually significantly different, and based on the number of
>>>> them available at dealers and on Craigslist and other classifieds - there
>>>> is a huge number of people who buy them, run them, and then get rid of
>>>> them. Either to upgrade to a larger bike or because they don't like
>>>> motorcycling based on that experience with the bike.
>>>>          I've also heard that people say that the smaller displacement
>>>> bikes get better gas mileage. I'm not entirely sure that is true - I
>>>> understand that its theoretically correct, smaller engine, less fuel. In
>>>> practice, if you've got two bikes of the same weight, the one with the
>>>> smaller engine will work harder to get that bike moving - requiring more
>>>> fuel. I've also heard that the smaller bikes need to be shifted down more
>>>> often to accelerate, which of course means you are turning up the engine to
>>>> get power out of it, and using more fuel.
>>>>         Just a couple of thoughts.
>>>>         I've heard bad things about the 250 Rebel - that the Kite In
>>>> the Wind on the highway effect is not unique to the 250 Nighthawk. I can't
>>>> say how a 650, 700 or 750 cc cruiser would perform, but in my opinion, I
>>>> wouldn't rule out a bigger bike - you might be happier with it.
>>>>           -Joey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yea good choice as always there Hondas and run forever.  so from a
>>>>> dealer or craigslist?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Christy Deering <
>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably used - cheaper, less likely to make me cry when they get
>>>>>> damaged...:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:51 AM, nighthawkin 
>>>>>> <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well you wont know till you test ride one?  are you looking at new
>>>>>>> or used?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Christy Deering <
>>>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think so :) I'm getting tired of feeling like a kite in the wind
>>>>>>>> whenever it gets gusty out here in Texas. *sigh*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was gonna say just that.  a shadow 600 would be good to but they
>>>>>>>>> are chain. I refuse to have a chain bike but that's just me.  yea any 
>>>>>>>>> 750
>>>>>>>>> shadow would be good.  if your ready for the extra weight?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Christy Deering <
>>>>>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dunno...wouldn't mind trying out a 750 Shadow... :) What would
>>>>>>>>>> you recommend?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:34 AM, nighthawkin <
>>>>>>>>>> gswannab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ahh... well what are you thinking of getting?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Christy Deering <
>>>>>>>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the thing. If they total the bike (which is what
>>>>>>>>>>>> happened when my last car got smashed into on the street) I'll 
>>>>>>>>>>>> just use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> money to put a down payment on another bike. A bigger one. :) Last 
>>>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the money I got for my old beater was only enough to buy a scooter 
>>>>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>>> Craigslist. This time, it would probably be the same amount (or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> even less,
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe) but I'd be looking for a more expensive vehicle I can buy 
>>>>>>>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>> dealership, probably. Sigh. Texas hasn't been kind to my vehicles 
>>>>>>>>>>>> so far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Rmj <
>>>>>>>>>>>> ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Be careful. The total damage may be more than the bike is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth, in which they will total it. Had that done to a car I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gave me some cash & I got it fixed. I'm still hurt that the car 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> salvage title
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ross
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Christy Deering <christydeer...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 4/17/2013 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ode to parking lots.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Thanks, everyone! I appreciate all the comments and help! I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will definitely let y'all know how it works out. Right now I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on an inspector to call to set up a time to come take a look at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the damage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the Nighthawk, after which I'll have my answer. I have a $500
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deductible, so we'll see what the damage amounts to...dent in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tank, bend
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clutch lever, scrapes, broken plastic cover, helmet...*crosses 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fingers it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over $500 so she gets some compensation*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Rmj <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Christy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let us know how all this works out. Lot of lessons for all of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ross
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rick, Scituate, MA, 82 650 NH <gibbon...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 4/17/2013 12:29 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ode to parking lots.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  You didn't mention which store you were in but I'd ask if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have cameras.  My car got hit in a parking winter before 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was able to find the other driver.  This was in a company's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parking lot and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their security was able to give me a plate number in about 2 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours.  I went
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the police department and they made the first call.  Turned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an employee of the company and they started off denying 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything but came
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> round after a day or two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it varies, these folks keep the data a week.  After
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it is deleted.  So I'd check soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope it was a car, I'd hate to think we'd do that to each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25:01 AM UTC-4, Christy Deering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I decided to stop by the store last night after work for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of things for dinner. Parked Gladys (the CB250) by a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lovely Honda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CBR 250, in a specially marked motorcycle parking area where 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars can't go,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made sure everything was in order, kick stand out all the way, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helmet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Came out from the store about 15 minutes later to Gladys on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her side, leaking gas onto the pavement, CBR gone, but no real 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gladys should be lying down at a time like this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the 90+ degree heat, hoisted all 350 lbs of her back on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her feet, straightened out the mirror/etc, noticed the crack in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plastic cover (probably caused by the bike falling on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helmet) along
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with numerous scratches...tried to start her up, she wouldn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go, sat there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a while thinking maybe the engine was flooded and waiting would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help...it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't...finally got off the bike, threw all my gear on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground (christ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was hot), took the seat off, pulled out the manual, followed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions for clearing a flooded motor, and she started up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Huzzah!).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To my heat and irritation addled brain, the instructions for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearing a flooded engine sounded like this: "Take off your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left glove,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whistle five and a half times, run the engine on and off for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seven half
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past nine minutes, turn everything *completely *off, hold a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seance, ask God for help, when he doesn't answer, turn bike 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ninety-eight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees to your left, put your left glove back on, compose a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sonnet, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then go out and buy a new bike."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mondays, I'm tellin ya.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if damage caused in a parking lot like this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is ever covered by insurance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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