I mind maintenance costs. :) I mind them a lot, so I'll have to check out a NH650 or 700.
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Allen Thomas <althomas...@gmail.com>wrote: > I second Javier's opinion of a NH650, if you are vertically challenged I'd > take that over a shadow any day. No valve maintenance, cheap tires and > insurance, shaft drive, plenty of get up and go, light handling, heavy > enough to not get blown around. If you can deal with the height then a 700S > would be my first choice for all the same reasons. After that a 90's NH750 > or something like a GS850 if you don't mind doing some maintenance. GS has > shaft but needs valve jobs, NH is chain but doesn't need valve jobs. Now if > you don't mind maintenance costs, and want sporty then get a large > displacement sport bike and call it a day. > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Christy Deering < > christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the advice, Joey! I wouldn't bother getting a bike with the >> same size engine I have now, nor would I try to stay with a lightweight >> bike. >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> To Echo Kyle's comment about V-Twins: >>> The common complaint I have heard and by the volume of them on >>> Craigslist small displacement V-Twins don't work well. Mine is a 1300cc - >>> and it has plenty of oomph - including low end torque. Its shocking to >>> people that have grown up with or have ridden inline twin and four cylinder >>> bikes - 1300cc puts you into the Hayabusa category and top speeds that >>> approach or exceed ridiculous. In a V-Twin however, 1300 cc is reasonable, >>> powerful, and actually on the small end. The new 113 Cubic Inch Indian >>> engine works out to a little over 1850cc's. That is also the same size as a >>> modern GoldWing. >>> There are many 650, 700 and 750cc V-twins of multiple >>> manufacturers out there. My advice - particularly if you are looking at a >>> Yamaha, is to bypass these lower displacement models. There is a perception >>> out there that a bigger V-Twin (For instance the 1100 cc vs. the 650 cc of >>> the previous Yamaha generation) is heavier, harder to deal with and more >>> expensive on insurance. My experience has been that the insurance cost is >>> not based upon displacement in the Cruiser category, so that is not an >>> issue for most. If we take the 650 Yamaha vs. the 1100 Yamaha, the bikes >>> are almost identical - frame - tank - accessories etc are almost all bolt >>> on. The transmission is often the same. The only difference is the size of >>> the engine - but the block is the same physical size and weight. The retail >>> price is not usually significantly different, and based on the number of >>> them available at dealers and on Craigslist and other classifieds - there >>> is a huge number of people who buy them, run them, and then get rid of >>> them. Either to upgrade to a larger bike or because they don't like >>> motorcycling based on that experience with the bike. >>> I've also heard that people say that the smaller displacement >>> bikes get better gas mileage. I'm not entirely sure that is true - I >>> understand that its theoretically correct, smaller engine, less fuel. In >>> practice, if you've got two bikes of the same weight, the one with the >>> smaller engine will work harder to get that bike moving - requiring more >>> fuel. I've also heard that the smaller bikes need to be shifted down more >>> often to accelerate, which of course means you are turning up the engine to >>> get power out of it, and using more fuel. >>> Just a couple of thoughts. >>> I've heard bad things about the 250 Rebel - that the Kite In the >>> Wind on the highway effect is not unique to the 250 Nighthawk. I can't say >>> how a 650, 700 or 750 cc cruiser would perform, but in my opinion, I >>> wouldn't rule out a bigger bike - you might be happier with it. >>> -Joey >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> yea good choice as always there Hondas and run forever. so from a >>>> dealer or craigslist? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Christy Deering < >>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Probably used - cheaper, less likely to make me cry when they get >>>>> damaged...:) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:51 AM, nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> well you wont know till you test ride one? are you looking at new or >>>>>> used? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Christy Deering < >>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think so :) I'm getting tired of feeling like a kite in the wind >>>>>>> whenever it gets gusty out here in Texas. *sigh* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, nighthawkin >>>>>>> <gswannab...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was gonna say just that. a shadow 600 would be good to but they >>>>>>>> are chain. I refuse to have a chain bike but that's just me. yea any >>>>>>>> 750 >>>>>>>> shadow would be good. if your ready for the extra weight? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Christy Deering < >>>>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dunno...wouldn't mind trying out a 750 Shadow... :) What would you >>>>>>>>> recommend? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:34 AM, nighthawkin < >>>>>>>>> gswannab...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ahh... well what are you thinking of getting? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Christy Deering < >>>>>>>>>> christydeer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's the thing. If they total the bike (which is what happened >>>>>>>>>>> when my last car got smashed into on the street) I'll just use the >>>>>>>>>>> money to >>>>>>>>>>> put a down payment on another bike. A bigger one. :) Last time, the >>>>>>>>>>> money I >>>>>>>>>>> got for my old beater was only enough to buy a scooter off >>>>>>>>>>> Craigslist. This >>>>>>>>>>> time, it would probably be the same amount (or even less, maybe) >>>>>>>>>>> but I'd be >>>>>>>>>>> looking for a more expensive vehicle I can buy from a dealership, >>>>>>>>>>> probably. >>>>>>>>>>> Sigh. Texas hasn't been kind to my vehicles so far. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Rmj < >>>>>>>>>>> ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Be careful. The total damage may be more than the bike is >>>>>>>>>>>> worth, in which they will total it. Had that done to a car I drive >>>>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>>>>> Gave me some cash & I got it fixed. I'm still hurt that the car >>>>>>>>>>>> now has a >>>>>>>>>>>> salvage title >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ross >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Christy Deering <christydeer...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 4/17/2013 1:21 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ode to parking lots. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, everyone! I appreciate all the comments and help! I >>>>>>>>>>>> will definitely let y'all know how it works out. Right now I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> just waiting >>>>>>>>>>>> on an inspector to call to set up a time to come take a look at >>>>>>>>>>>> the damage >>>>>>>>>>>> on the Nighthawk, after which I'll have my answer. I have a $500 >>>>>>>>>>>> deductible, so we'll see what the damage amounts to...dent in >>>>>>>>>>>> tank, bend >>>>>>>>>>>> clutch lever, scrapes, broken plastic cover, helmet...*crosses >>>>>>>>>>>> fingers it's >>>>>>>>>>>> over $500 so she gets some compensation* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Rmj < >>>>>>>>>>>> ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christy, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let us know how all this works out. Lot of lessons for all of >>>>>>>>>>>>> us to learn >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ross >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rick, Scituate, MA, 82 650 NH <gibbon...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 4/17/2013 12:29 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Ode to parking lots. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention which store you were in but I'd ask if >>>>>>>>>>>>> they have cameras. My car got hit in a parking winter before >>>>>>>>>>>>> last and I >>>>>>>>>>>>> was able to find the other driver. This was in a company's >>>>>>>>>>>>> parking lot and >>>>>>>>>>>>> their security was able to give me a plate number in about 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> hours. I went >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the police department and they made the first call. Turned >>>>>>>>>>>>> out it was >>>>>>>>>>>>> an employee of the company and they started off denying >>>>>>>>>>>>> everything but came >>>>>>>>>>>>> round after a day or two. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it varies, these folks keep the data a week. After >>>>>>>>>>>>> that it is deleted. So I'd check soon. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope it was a car, I'd hate to think we'd do that to each >>>>>>>>>>>>> other. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25:01 AM UTC-4, Christy Deering >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I decided to stop by the store last night after work for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of things for dinner. Parked Gladys (the CB250) by a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lovely Honda >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CBR 250, in a specially marked motorcycle parking area where >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars can't go, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> made sure everything was in order, kick stand out all the way, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> helmet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Came out from the store about 15 minutes later to Gladys on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> her side, leaking gas onto the pavement, CBR gone, but no real >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gladys should be lying down at a time like this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the 90+ degree heat, hoisted all 350 lbs of her back on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> her feet, straightened out the mirror/etc, noticed the crack in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plastic cover (probably caused by the bike falling on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> helmet) along >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with numerous scratches...tried to start her up, she wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> go, sat there >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a while thinking maybe the engine was flooded and waiting would >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help...it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't...finally got off the bike, threw all my gear on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground (christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was hot), took the seat off, pulled out the manual, followed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions for clearing a flooded motor, and she started up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> again >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Huzzah!). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To my heat and irritation addled brain, the instructions for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearing a flooded engine sounded like this: "Take off your left >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glove, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whistle five and a half times, run the engine on and off for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seven half >>>>>>>>>>>>>> past nine minutes, turn everything *completely *off, hold a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seance, ask God for help, when he doesn't answer, turn bike >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ninety-eight >>>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees to your left, put your left glove back on, compose a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sonnet, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then go out and buy a new bike." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mondays, I'm tellin ya. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if damage caused in a parking lot like this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is ever covered by insurance? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the 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