( The gas tank bolt is out and the gas tank can come off, but that's all I could do today, all staggering from heat exhaustion. I tried for an hour to unscrew it "sensibly" but it really needed to be sawed off with an oiled hacksaw. It was not as easy as it might sound. I''ve been avoiding getting a Dremel because the new ones seem much flimsier than the one I last had but I should get one for things like this. I shouldn't have to work.)
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Owen O'Neill <owen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Allen Thomas:/> Oh, Gauge, yeah. > > EGrider:/> don't own a car but have some serious batteries (Cyclon) being > all the same I could jump with. This time I was more concerned about the > health of the one on board since it would be a shame if it were damaged > being a new and expensive one. > > Q: Is battery draining a big deal with the NightHawks because they only > charge at higher RPMs than other bikes for whatever reason? I was thinking > about just the idea of having a small, secondary battery with a circuit > containing at least one DC to DC converter that switches it in to assist > the main one so that it doesn't drain so much at lower RPMs, and charges > itself when there's ample power and could, being a deep cycle type even be > able to fast-charge the bigger one if it got critically low. > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Allen Thomas <althomas...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Gauge not Hague. That was a typo. >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Owen O'Neill <owen...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Check! "Hague sensor"... I've been adding markers to the pdf someone >>> nicely made available of the Shop Service Manual to make it searchable by >>> typing keywords. Not anytime soon, but maybe I will do enough of it to be >>> generally useful to others. >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Graham Rogers < >>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Remove the tank by unscrewing and prying up on the stripped bolt. >>>> Disconnect the fuel Hague sensor wires first. You should see them close to >>>> the tank, left hand side under the seat. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Sep 5, 2015, at 15:49, Owen O'Neill <owen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> (It's funny how when I was checking out the carburetors, I turned the >>>> throttle and when the slides didn't move I thought I was going insane >>>> before I decided that there might be more than the one type of carburetor I >>>> know, such as a vacuum operated one, and indeed there is when I went back >>>> to my computer. I need a tablet or at least waste an ink cartridge to print >>>> out the manual if I'm going to do work on this thing XD ) >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Kyle Munz <kyle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The fuelcock is vacuum actuated. When in the ON or RES position you >>>>> also have to apply vacuum to open the diaphragm before any fuel will flow. >>>>> If that vacuum line is no longer attached you won't get fuel to the carbs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Kyle >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Owen O'Neill <owen...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> '83 650 I bought 2 months ago. I've never worked on a motorcycle or >>>>>> driven one before. Mopeds, yes, mopeds like you would not believe but I >>>>>> find that this completely different, 100 times more complicated and I >>>>>> cannot pick this machine up off the ground and carry it or spark it up by >>>>>> just nudging it forward. >>>>>> ...Right after I bought this sexy looking machine I took it around a >>>>>> bit, stalling all the time shifting out of N :) -- and it had no problem >>>>>> starting up and it ran very powerfully. I even zoomed up to 45mph in 1st >>>>>> gear for a few seconds and it seemed like it could go much faster than >>>>>> that >>>>>> without redlining. >>>>>> >>>>>> ( I noticed the air filters were caked with pollen and grime, so I >>>>>> took them off and cleaned them. Getting these (K&N things) back on was >>>>>> arduous because the previous owner, as I discovered, had stripped that >>>>>> bolt >>>>>> for taking off the gas tank. It just turns and turns.That's a whole big >>>>>> deal in itself because I have no ideas other than maybe trying to get a >>>>>> crowbar under the bolt's head to pry it out-- Or better a hacksaw there I >>>>>> guess now thinking about that again. ) >>>>>> >>>>>> ==================> The main problem/question I have though is about >>>>>> how it won't start up at all now after I was forced to let it sit for 2 >>>>>> months. Fuel stabilizer in the tank, valve turned off. I put a brand new >>>>>> good battery on it, and It fired up briefly but that was probably from >>>>>> the >>>>>> residual gas in the carbs and starting fluid I sprayed into the carb >>>>>> intakes when the filters were off. And the tank is 90% full, with a cup >>>>>> of >>>>>> Seafoam. Whether it's turned to ON or RES, shouldn't fuel normally just >>>>>> pour out of this valve by gravity? I don't immediately go to blame it on >>>>>> the valve, because the fuel gauge LCD is blinking "RES". would a somehow >>>>>> faulty fuel-level indicator or other electronics be closing off the gas >>>>>> tank? Because, in getting the air valves back on I might have damaged >>>>>> something underneath the tank. My head isn't together enough to start >>>>>> intensely studying the Shop Service Manual that I downloaded, so I >>>>>> thought >>>>>> a Nighthawk hero on here might read this and have a solution or >>>>>> suggestions. Ey? Very very appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also I'm not ashamed to admit it because there was nothing I could do >>>>>> about it being outside and rained on heavily. That's why I replaced the >>>>>> $20 >>>>>> Walmart battery it came with. All the electrical system seems fine >>>>>> (except >>>>>> something about the fuel gauge, if that's an electrical or a mechanical >>>>>> issue). >>>>>> >>>>>> Also because it was dark out on an unlevel surface, after I got back >>>>>> from the one test ride I did so far I tipped it over while standing over >>>>>> it >>>>>> getting frustrated trying to lock the front fork. I went down with it >>>>>> trying to stop it of course and so it didn't exactly slam down on the >>>>>> ground hard, just the mirror got bent. I picked it up and made sure it >>>>>> started again. 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