I have read in Moose Petersons book, that the MF 180/2.8 (first built in 1970 in c-type and AI-version) had a ED lens element, but Nikon did not publish that. Officially the ED glas was introduced 1980 with the MF180/2.8 ED (in AIS- version). I am thinking of buying this lens second hand and I woud like to know: -Has anybody compared the non-ED and ED version? Is there a significant difference? -How many elements made of ED-glas does the MF180/2.8 have? -How do you like the lens? -It would be my first fast Tele-lens and I would like to use it with converters (TC200 and TC14a) - how does that work? Any suggestions? Thanx Thomas P.S.: A little TRICK for fast lens change: Did you ever feel you have need one hand more for a lens change? -Get two of your rear-lens-caps (not-original-Nikon ones are the best). Sand them a little bit that they get an even surface and glue them together. -> Now you can put the double rear lens cap on your second lens. To change the lenses just release the lens from the body - hook it into the double lens cap, now the two lenses are connnected. Release the second lens and put it on the body. This is really much easier. :-))) Thomas Buro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.stud.uni-wuppertal.de/~ua0273/homepage.html Have you ever had problems with shipping goods? Yes: Tell me maybe we can do something about improving future transport systems. Have a look on the webpage http://www.stud.uni-wuppertal.de/~ua0273/shipperc.html