> Along those lines some specific actions that I think would be promising would > be: > > working towards a nim foundation (see previous discussion). A foundation > could foster the creation of specific official working groups on various > matters (documentation, ecosystem, funding, ...) and it would allow more > involved people to be officially invested by the community to tackle specific > topics. planning for in person meetings (both global and local): online is > nice and useful and all, but I think meeting a lot of nim folks in person > could accelerate change and help smooth out occasional frictions. I was > trying to work on having an occasion at fosdem with a nim devroom, didn't > work out (we were not accepted), will try again (and still considering going > to connect to some of the nim people who plan anyway to go there). On local > side a plan I still have is to start a meet up in Milan. also, I try to make > an effort to show up here and elsewhere and be welcoming to newcomers. often > is easy to just leave a like but I guess a few more words can help. it helps > also to be present on socials (twitter, fosstodon) and other places (e.g. ask > and answer questions on stack overflow).
This was certainly one of the things in the back of my mind. Again, with Python as an example, the PSF was a huge part of Python's success. Even in the early days, it was important for giving people the sense that governance wouldn't be an issue if Guido were ever to be hit by a bus (which was a huge topic of concern). Is there meaningful progress there? I have been around enough to know that it actually would be easier to get big Silicon Valley companies involved if the legal entity were a US entity, btw. I do know a lot of people who have started foundations like this (including people who run VERY large tech foundations), and could definitely help navigate the way to do this that's going to put Nim on the best foot possible, if people are interested. Feel free to reach out privately. > planning for in person meetings (both global and local): online is nice and > useful and all, but I think meeting a lot of nim folks in person could > accelerate change and help smooth out occasional frictions. I was trying to > work on having an occasion at fosdem with a nim devroom, didn't work out (we > were not accepted), will try again (and still considering going to connect to > some of the nim people who plan anyway to go there). On local side a plan I > still have is to start a meet up in Milan. also, I try to make an effort to > show up here and elsewhere and be welcoming to newcomers. often is easy to > just leave a like but I guess a few more words can help. it helps also to be > present on socials (twitter, fosstodon) and other places (e.g. ask and answer > questions on stack overflow). I also would love the physical meeting (and understand the importance of social media, even though I don't use it a lot). I'd definitely love meetups and conferences. Seems like a lot of the critical mass is in Europe, but I'll definitely look for any events there and plan a trip around it... I'd love to get to know some people in person. > > I'm going to shut up about it all now, unless someone actually wants to > > have a real discussion about what can improve adoption. "Write docs" > > doesn't address the issue I raised, but as I said, if there's some sort of > > sanctioned Wiki, I probably will, despite the fact that I certainly don't > > feel welcome. > > I hope you will keep up the discussion and I would definitely would not want > for you to feel unwelcome here or on the wiki. You are most welcome! I appreciate it. There definitely has been some solid engagement, and you in particular (but others as well) have been welcoming, so thanks for that. I did speak up because I'm interested in finding ways to help this community that I can actually absorb, because I do believe it's a great language. I'm willing to do what I can, but I also will go back to being a happy user who lurks and helps in the margins when it's easy, if there's no obvious path, or it's not welcome. All that to say, I had intended my comment as wanting to bow out of the negative aspects of the thread... even if everyone here were to hate me, I'm probably going to keep being a Nim user and would want to see it succeed :)
