On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Raymond Beaudoin <
[email protected]> wrote:

> The TOS posted only relates to their Cloud service. You may not host
> infringing material or pornography on on their *services*. You are also
> not forced to register for their cloud service. From what I was reading on
> the new firmware, by registering for the service you can remotely
> administrate your router but if you do not register it will still function
> as normal without full remote access.
>
> -Raymond Beaudoin
>

Right, but from what I was reading they are making the cloud service
mandatory.

>
>
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:29:26 PM UTC-5, dink wrote:
>>
>> http://www.neowin.net/news/**cisco-locks-users-out-of-**
>> their-routers-requires-**invasive-cloud-service<http://www.neowin.net/news/cisco-locks-users-out-of-their-routers-requires-invasive-cloud-service>
>> The comments in this article may contain language that is not safe for
>> work.
>>
>> However, I specifically would like to point out the following paragraph:
>> "Generally, when you buy a new device you plan on using it however you
>> want, hopefully with the occasional update to keep everything running
>> smoothly. Every once in a while, though, an update comes along that makes
>> you scream in terror, like the one Cisco just rolled out across their
>> router line, forcing users to register with Cisco's cloud 
>> service<http://home.cisco.com/en-us/cloud> or
>> end up with a bricked 
>> device<http://www.extremetech.com/computing/132142-ciscos-cloud-vision-mandatory-monetized-and-killed-at-their-discretion?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ciscos-cloud-vision-mandatory-monetized-and-killed-at-their-discretion?onswipe_redirect=no>
>> ."
>>
>> The update alleges that it blocks bit torrent and porn.
>>
>>
>> This is a clause from their cloud connect service: "You agree not to use
>> or permit the use of the Service: (i) to invade another's privacy; (ii) for
>> obscene, pornographic, or offensive purposes; (iii) to infringe another's
>> rights, including but not limited to any intellectual property rights; (iv)
>> to upload, email or otherwise transmit or make available any unsolicited or
>> unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, spam, junk mail or any
>> other form of solicitation; (v) to transmit or otherwise make available any
>> code or virus, or perform any activity, that could harm or interfere with
>> any device, software, network or service (including this Service); or (vi)
>> to violate, or encourage any conduct that would violate any applicable law
>> or regulation or give rise to civil or criminal liability.  "
>>
>> Happy 4th of July.
>>
>> Tomato and other firmware options just became mandatory in my book.
>>
>> Andrew McElroy
>>
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