On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Mark J. Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:

> I located the previous Linksys firmware for a brand new (last week!)
> EA4500, dropped the internet connection and connected to the EA4500 with
> IE and downgraded the firmware back to before this whole "cloud" fiasco.
> Once downgraded, I disabled automatic upgrades. You have to drop the
> Internet connection in order to then be able to access the new "offline"
> firmware (a heavily crippled version of the original firmware). They will
> make no further updates on the original firmware either.
>
> For Cisco to force this is one thing, but there were HUNDREDS of folks
> posting on forums scattered about that had their routers auto upgrade to
> the new firmware/service overnight *AND* lost all their setups. They just
> arrived at work to find nothing working. The Cisco "cloud" web app has
> only a fraction of the features/functions, so, anything beyond basic game
> port forwarding is now non-existent. What kid did they put in charge of
> creating and rolling out that web app such that no one seems to have even
> bothered (and/or probably didn't give a crap) as to what this "upgrade"
> was going to do to all the *businesses* that utilized these low-cost
> routers for something more than Xbox and Facebook? They should have at
> least mirrored the entire feature set in the cloud app and have provided
> for a way for these settings to auto-transfer from the NVRAM up to the
> cloud when you "registered". They provided for NONE of this!
>
> No doubt they now view it as a home consumer only product line, and wanted
> to force Genie back in the bottle. On top of that, if you read the TOS for
> the new cloud service, they state clearly that they have the right to mine
> YOUR data in and out through the router to look for "things" (whatever
> they desire)! No doubt, like with Facebook, it is to then bombard you with
> targeted electronic and paper advertisements, etc. The terms state that
> one thing would be to determine "problems" within your network for you.
> But, why not look for "bad behavior" too? It is something else to be sure.
>
> The mindset of a company that would be so presumptuous with this product
> line should be questioned when it comes to their mainstay product lines as
> well (at least from now on).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Drew from Zhrodague
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:58 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [nlug] Re: [libre issue] has cisco cross an ethical line in
> software?
>
> On 7/4/12 10:02 PM, Raymond Beaudoin wrote:
> > There's been a lot of hype today but it sounded like they were going
> > to remove the requirement, however if you take a look at the
> > screenshots generated today it is *heavily* neutered if you don't sign
> > up. /me starts rummaging for DD-WRT
>
>         Big fan of DD-WRT. In fact, one of my last jobs had purchased an
> extremely expensive WiMax system from Cisco (One of Cisco's acquisitions),
> and the Cisco tech and I were unable to get it to work at all. It would
> connect, but not pass any data. Drove me nuts.
>
>         DD-WRT on a couple of Goodwill Special WRT-54g units allowed us to
> stream our data properly, even in an overly-saturated WiFi environment.
> Huge fan.
>
>         Cisco has always pissed me off, but not as much as their web-based
> GUIs, which absolutely REQUIRED having Internet Explorer installed to run
> their Java management thingy. Drove me nuts.
>
> --
>
> Drew from Zhrodague
> lolcat divinator
> [email protected]
>

Dang!  Well, I'm glad my only Linksys "intelligent" hardware is unplugged
and sitting in my office closet.

I have no need or desire to remotely administer that router.  As a matter
of fact, that is one thing I disable right off, if it happened to be
enabled.

And them even thinking about including language like keeping your internet
history????  Um... no!

Paul Boniol

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