Just heard from my friend in Taipei again.  He says the Taiwanese people
aren't actually very happy with their Internet pricing.  Huh?  No, they're
envious of the people in Japan who have higher speed at a somewhat higher
price.  2 Gbps for $50/month?  What on earth do you do with 2 Gbps?  I
really don't want to push my home network up to 10 Gbps so I'm not slowing
down a 2 Gbps connection:

http://www.techspot.com/news/52275-worlds-fastest-internet-arrives-in-tokyo-2gbps-for-50-mo.html

Besides, none of my computers can handle 10 Gbps anyway.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Tim Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Howard White <[email protected]> wrote>
> > Nobody wanted to see duplicate cable plants constructed, burying even
> more
> > copper lines.  This is what has opened up the means for WindStream and TW
> > (International) Telecom and all the other Facilities Based CLECs to buy
> the
> > last mile from the ILEC at a regulated price.
>
> Windstream, TWT, and lots of others actually *do* own their own plant
> in downtown (and around), it's just cost prohibitive to extend this to
> everyone, especially when you don't want to be in the business of
> providing to everyone. The telecom act of 96 also made it easy for the
> ILEC to basically cut CLECs out of their mandated services. Uverse is
> an unregulated service, and operated at arms length by AT&T. If your
> neighborhood is served by a VRAD, no CLEC can actually gain access to
> the copper entrance facilities into your residence anymore.
>
> > So instead, we have duplicate cable plants with Cable TV providers in the
> > same market space as ILECs.  Never mind that COAX and analog copper has
> been
> > obsolete since at least 1984!!!  To say nothing of the demise of Switched
> > Circuit telephony.
>
> There's nothing stopping a duplicate cable plant, or a duplicate
> copper plant, or a duplicate fiber plant..
>
> Coax (which is no longer actually coax, but more hybrid fiber/coax) is
> not really obsolete. HFC networks are actually pretty cost competitive
> especially when compared to twisted pair copper. Most HFC plants can
> deliver DOCSIS3 rates of over 100mbps easily, and do this over large
> areas by re-using spectrum in the downstream side. A lot of the
> Switched Digital Video that both Comcast and Charter have been doing
> in the past few years is to free up downstream for more DOCSIS
> carriers. It's quite interesting when your downstream is served mainly
> from a fiber-fed edge qam in your neighborhood, and only your upstream
> (and one downstream carrier) is making it back to the head-end.
>
> Copper is still a competitive access method tbh, but only at sub
> 4,000ft loop lengths, which is why AT&T has been installing VRADs and
> shortening loop lengths to provide faster (more reliable) service. 2-4
> pair Bonded VDSL2 w/ vectoring can deliver rates on these loop lengths
> of over 300mbps. There is a huge challenge to doing it, but it is
> possible.
>
> There are also other loop shortening techniques like pole-mounted
> fiber or copper (G.SHDSL) back-fed hardened DSLAMs that let you re-use
> existing facilities and increase speed and DSL penetration..
>
> As someone who actually works in the telecommunications industry
> building networks like this, hearing armchair engineering and economic
> arguments about these kind of things are really kind of boring. The
> truth is that to deliver ubiquitous broadband in the US is a
> multi-hundred-billion dollar undertaking, that no company or companies
> will do because there's no real return on investment.
>
> Nobody (sans a few Municipalities, a select few CLECs, and Google)
> wants to be the big fast cheap residential dumb pipe provider. It's
> hard to do and make money at, and you have to be super selective on
> where you build out to.
>
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