On 2021-01-03 20:21, J. Liles wrote:
Actions speak louder than words, Fillipe.
Well yes, I am totally with you on that.
In acts of rage we do thinks that we later regret. 2020 has been a lousy
year for most people.
If you really had honor, skill, gratitude, and goodwill, then you
would contribute back to the project which you have benefited from,
rather than attempting to co-opt it in order to win the empty
accolades of Linux Audio Conference attendees and pad your resume with
the accomplishments of others.
I really do not appreciate the personal attacks, I thought we were past
this.
But since you mention it, I can see where you come from with some of
these, but feel it is totally misguided.
I have not put any non-personal projects on my own CV, you can see it
for yourself at https://falktx.com/#cv
And you can even see the commit history for the CV
https://github.com/falkTX/falktx-web/commits/master/cv
I did take over the JACK project a bit too early, while I was still too
deep with some life issues and between jobs, I feel guilty of that.
It took way too long from taking JACK to actually make a proper release,
and then come true to the promises to revive the win/mac situation.
I have purposefully reduced my working hours just to have some time to
dedicate per week to open-source projects. Now even at only 3 days per week.
So forgive me if I feel a little bit personally attacked here. I never
called you names or said swear words to you.
You know very well that we tried to have co-operation with you in the
NSM project. But all we got was friction, sometimes even verbal abuse.
Maybe that is just how you think it should be done, but most of the
community does not think the same way.
There was more than 1 developer that intentionally did not implement NSM
support because they saw how hard it was to get anything done and pushed
for in NSM.
I tried to remain neutral all this time, promoting NSM all I could.
The KXStudio repositories had NSM stuff up to date as much as possible,
I implemented NSM in my own tools and promoted it as well within developers.
As an example, in the Sonoj 2019 talk about JACK, I publicly mention
that we need to push for NSM
https://media.ccc.de/v/sonoj2019-1902-jack-past-present-future
The only reason you didn't change the name of NSM to a pandering sexy
feminine name is that you wanted to keep the acronym intact to
maximize the disruptive effect on me and my community of users and
thwart efforts to get NSM included in Debian.
Ignoring the weird remarks about sexism.. it is obvious why the NSM name
was kept.
Because we, in the community, truly believe in NSM to be a good spec and
the way to go forward in regards to session management.
We want to push it forward and see it used a lot more, there were just
too many issues when dealing with its maintainer, of course you.
Make no mistake, one of the big reasons NON/NSM is not in Debian/Ubuntu
is because of your actions and how you behave(d).
I do not mean this as any kind of personal attack, just wish you would
be able to see this really.
It is because we, the community, really like NSM and believe in it, that
we went with a fork, as the last resort.
We really appreciate all the work you put on it, and for the rest of the
NON suite too.
But as a maintainer, you were jeopardizing the project with your behaviour.
Nils has some relevant things he said not a long while ago, see
https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=21772&p=121745#p121745
People can change though, so if you ever decide to give up this
campaign of deceit and disruption, then I'll happily accept from you
any useful and appropriate patches you care to offer.
I would say the same, for the first part.
Some of the things are you saying are misguided, but understandable that
you feel hurt.
We hope you change to drop the personal attacks.
I am sorry the situation got to this point.
We love you, and your projects as well, specially NSM.
Really, please take care.
Wish you all the best.
Filipe Coelho
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 10:49 AM Filipe Coelho <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 2021-01-03 17:56, Richard wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 15:40:17 +0100
> Fredrik Vestermark <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just wanted to reach out with a big thank you to J. Liles for
your
>> hard work on developing Non and publishing it under an open source
>> license. Thank you to everybody else involved too, of course!
>>
>> As a community, we often forget that developing and maintaining
free
>> software costs a lot of time and nerves. If you too feel like a
>> GitHub star is not enough appreciation for Non, please consider a
>> donation via PayPal to show some ♥ and support Liles great work:
>> https://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/Donations
>>
>> Best regards and a happy new year,
>> Fredrik
> Thank you Frederik for reminding me about the "Donations" page.
> Thank you too to Aaron Duerksen for making such a complete bug
report
> on that segfault when removing a control. It has annoyed me for
ages,
> most recently yesterday, but I couldn't have done as good a job
as you
> in tracking down the issue.
> And of course, thank you Jonathan for providing us with such a
capable
> suite of programs for exploring the worlds of sound processing and
> making music. I'm an amateur at both, but boy, what fun it is. I
look
> forward to the exciting developments and possible improvements which
> you may have time to share with us in the near future.
+1
We all appreciate your efforts, even if there are things we
disagree with.
Thank you. And happy new year to everyone by the way.
