One can think, encouraging that someone who forked the project, sents a kind 
message to this list and I always want to be a proponent of restored relations, 
but still your message feels a bit misplaced here Filipe. There is no denying.

The fact that NSM didn't hit Debian (still not in Debian afaik), had nothing to 
do with the developer, it was because of NTK and waf. If you guys wanted, it 
was possible to maintain a version of NSM without NTK (Fltk only). I was 
helping Nils with it, at that moment, but behind my and I guess our backs you 
guys where working on a fork. I just became aware of it, when there arrived a 
message on the LAA mailinglist, while having e-mail contact regularly the same 
week with Nils.

You guys didn't just forked, after telling that you would be forking and 
discussing it. You did choose for a huge and hidden coup.

Also the fact that you guys call it the community version, still gives me a 
very bad taste. It's plain newspeak to present a well thought out 'coup', 
behind the core community, as social.

That developer who didn't want to implement NSM was Hermann from Guitarix. I 
discussed NSM support for Guitarix for more then 7(!) years with him. His 
argumentation was that NSM should be in Debian first. Fair enough, but to name 
that as a reason for a fork...

With having Argodejo as alternative GUI and a nsmd version which could be used 
in Debian, you guys had plenty space to hack around. But you did choose to fork 
also the FLTK original GUI.

I can't conclude otherwise that your plan was to totally replace 
Non-Session-Manager with New-Session-Manager. Given the meaning of 
Non-Session-Manager for Linuxaudio and the contribution by it's developer, this 
still feels completely wrong. Especially the way you did it. So your message 
feels misplaced, sorry.

And indeed, this is huge downside of the LAU community lately. These actions 
are cheered up by a small crowd who know each other well and is backing up each 
other, even while they don't use NSM themselves. Where the LAU community was a 
community of people with a scientific background and/ or creative 
non-mainstream thinking, it's now a group of witchhunters who call everyone 
with a different opinion a troll.

Hail the community!

But sorry, as we use to say in this part of the world: weeds do not die... Go 
male! :)

Future? I don't see how these two projects can come together really. What the 
people of the fork could do, is to sent patches as much as possible to the 
original project maybe. And / or maybe get rid of the FLTK fork and focus on 
Argodejo only. Anyway, that's not my expertise, nor did I create this 
situation, nor do I want to waste my time on it.

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