Ouch. I didn't say it SOUNDED good though, did I. :-p Colin Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Ormston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Colin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: RE: [NSP] Re: Kathryn Tickell on Radio 3
No it Disnae! -----Original Message----- From: Colin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2006 20:34 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Kathryn Tickell on Radio 3 Hey! Nothing wrong with Disney. Never smile at a crocodile goes down well on the pipes. ;-) Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris Ormston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: Kathryn Tickell on Radio 3 > Post-Imperial cultural tripe, a few steps above Disney. I didn't bother > giving this piece a listen because one of my most unsatisfying gigs was > playing the piper in a stint of Orkney Wedding. It was clear that the > composer knew very little about the pipes. From the ornaments alone it > was clear he hadn't even given the most basic tutor a once over, because > one or two were impossible and most were pointless. It required the piper > to start in the lobby and walk in from the stage right. Fair enough, > except the piper's part starts on the beat four of the bar previous to the > orchestra...playing the same melody a beat ahead of the orchestra. You > are supposed to do this while waiting off stage without being able to see > the conductor. Add to that the fact the conductor spoke only Japanese, > and no one in the orchestra gave the piper a cursory "hello." Like > playing with the Cheiftains, it may be prestigious but afterwards you feel > like a cheap trick. Wham, bam, there's the door. > > John > > > > > "Chris Ormston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 10/28/2006 03:28 AM > > To > <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu> > cc > > Subject > [NSP] Re: Kathryn Tickell on Radio 3 > > > > > > > > I managed to listen for a few minutes, then had to switch off. The little > that I heard clearly demonstrated the composer's lack of understanding of > the instrument and its music. Bagpipe music is all about the relationship > between melody and drones, yet we were subjected to strange intervals that > neither sit comfortably on the chanter nor relate to the drone > accompaniment. Previous works by this composer have included a piece for > pipes which goes beyond the range of the chanter - enough said??? More > high-brow, emperor's-new-clothes fodder using the pipes as a gimmick! > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Walton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 October 2006 08:47 > To: Richard Shuttleworth > Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [NSP] Re: Kathryn Tickell on Radio 3 > > I had some of the same feelings myself. It definitely wasn't in the > mould of the traditional music for the pipes, and while I do like to see > composers and players branching out into other types of music for > instruments from time to time, in a lot of cases unless one does stick > close to the traditional style, one doesn't get the most out of the > instrument (this is something I've also observed on the recorder, > although modern recorder music is something quite evil which relies on > techniques fit to drive you mad). > > But as you say, Kathryn played it well. There were some bits in there > which I definitely wouldn't have wanted to attempt on any instrument! > > On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 18:24 -0400, Richard Shuttleworth wrote: > > Thanks for the heads-up. I managed to catch it but was quite > disappointed. > > The pipes were under-recorded most of the time and were often drowned > out > by > > the orchestra. The second (slow) movement raised my hopes for a while > but > > > sadly missed a golden opportunity to showcase the pipes, almost as > though > to > > composer didn't really know how to treat the instrument and tried to > bend > it > > into a classical mold instead of taking advantage of the traditional > gendre > > that the pipes could have made available to him. > > > > None of the above detracts from Kathryn's playing, she was superb! > > > > Just my 2 pence work, > > > > Richard > > > > Matthew wrote: > > > > > It's working right now as I'm in the middle of the relevant piece. > > > Probably won't be available after today though, as they take them down > > > after seven days - may not even be available later this evening. > > > > > > I'm in no position to comment on Kathryn's playing style but it > > > certainly doesn't sound like the sort of pipe music she usually plays > on > > > her albums. Of course, on her albums she's not got the Northern > Sinfonia > > > playing with her either. > > > > > > Tis good. > > > > > > On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 23:47 +0200, Bart Blanquart wrote: > > >> WILLIAM REEDER wrote: > > >> > Was this program ever archived? I seem to be completely unable to > find > > >> > it. > > >> > > >> The BBC seems to be having difficulty with the archiving feature; > they > > >> have 'Performance on 3' archived for all days this week but friday. > > >> > > >> At the top of their radio player > > >> (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio3.shtml) it currently says "We > > >> regret that many programmes are unavailable. We are working to > restore > > >> normal service"... so hopefully it'll show up soon. > > >> > > >> Bart > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> To get on or off this list see list information at > > >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- > >
