Agreed.
CR
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Gruar <phi...@gruar.clara.net>
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:13
Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places
available
Well said "colin" (Hill, of course)
I have been reading this list (both lists) over the past month with a
growing sense of detatchment and loss of interest. I wonder if I can
really be bothered to open any new message, and very likely read yet
more griping and point-scoring, or whether just to hit the delete
button, and send NPS and NSP alike to join all the other spam.
We have had the endless "what is proper piping?" debate yet again (have
the Taliban got an internet discussion list about true Islam, I wonder?
If so it must be very similar), continuing point-scoring about the
presidency, about the society "rules" or lack of them, pipe-makers and
pipe-making books and what the society has/hasn't/should/shouldn't have
done about them, and now this latest extraordinary outburst.
The suggested distinction between NPS discussion and NSP (Dartmouth)
list isn't really being observed, often because the subject matter
applies to both. Personally, I don't bother to look closely at the
acronym to see what list a posting is meant for, I still read them all
- and I'm sure most of us who have subscribed to both do the same.
I used to follow the discussions with interest, and often contribute to20
them, but the level of debate recently (with a few honourable
exceptions) has sunk so low I'm tempted to unsubscribe from both lists.
Letting my Society subsciption lapse sometimes seems like a good idea
too.
Please can we have a Summer recess, or a moratorium or something, and
all come back refreshed and nicer people, ready to discuss piping and
its music tolerantly and positively?
Can we also drop the (failed?) experiment of the NPS discussion list.
Some of us ordinary members really don't care any more about the
Society's internal battles. Just fight it out among yourselves and let
us know the result by old-fashioned snail-mail newsletter when all the
blood has been cleaned up.
Philip
----- Original Message ----- From: "colin"
<cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places
available
I'm, glad someone else aid it first.
I wasn't aware that this particular list was only for NPS events and
news. > I
thought it was a general list for anyone interested in any aspect of
the
pipes.
So, if a course is being run and ISN'T held by the NPS we can't read
it/post
it etc?
This puerile twaddle has got to stop before we all leave the list
and, the
way it's going, the Society too.
Please put personal feeling aside and talk pipes and piping.
If non-society events can't be discussed, what's the point of us
non-Northeasteners bothering to belong to the list.
I certainly can't get to Newcastle for an event (too far, too
expensive, > too
ill to travel that distance).
OK, if them's the rules........................
How about starting a NEW list where we can discuss ANYTHING to do
with
piping then?
I would agree, however, that this topic would not be permitted in the
discussion list (which is for members only).
I fail to see how a general, public list (not linked to the NPS as
such) > can
disallow private courses, tutoring, pipe sales etc.
I know that certain society members consider themselves a bit of a
clique.
Most of us don't. We love the pipes (whether we play or not) and
enjoy
talking about them.
I would be most interested to read about, say, KT doing a concert
here.
Apoplectic fits from many members I suppose.
Very sad. This list used to be very open (and I've been here for a
long > time
as well) and honest. Now it's a point-scoring forum.
I no longer look forward to reading the mails as I know what's
coming.
Sorry but I'm really getting fed up with reading the snide remarks
these
days (plus most is lost on me as
I don't know the people concerned).
Bah, Humbug...............
Colin Hill
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