With all respect to Stu and not putting in to let this thread go crazy...
We all enjoy our liberty.
We are dealing with people who do not know what liberty is. They resent our
way of life and wish to destroy it.
Defending ourselves against that type of mindset does not require a look
into a book of rules.
This is not entirely about what is right and wrong as far as a response.
This is about BASIC HUMAN SURVIVAL....if any of us knew that the next know
on our door would destroy us or our loved ones,
we would not waste time thinking we would act to protect ourselves.
They (who else!) are not entitled to any considerations that our
constitution may offer. It was written for us ( people who wish to abide and
live in a free society)....
I am no expert on politics but maybe that has helped to put us in this
vulnerable position. I refuse to be a prisoner in my own country. I have
been and will be back on the same war torn streets of Manhattan that most of
you have been reading about. I will walk them with high expectation of
keeping our freedom.....
Whatever has to be done to keep it that way is to be seen.......
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Puckett, Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: The idiocy continues!
> But lets remember that these rights are for americans only(no offense) and
> should not be used to protect the guilty hiding in other countries. They
> are not subject to our rights therefore no need for a trial.
>
> Matthew Puckett MCSE, MCP+Internet, MCP
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:09 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: The idiocy continues!
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Stuart Tonge wrote:
> > What kind of civil liberties?
>
> For those outside the US, who may not be familiar with our government,
> here
> is a bit of a crash course:
>
> The foundation of our (i.e., the United States of America) government is
> our Constitution. The first ten Amendments to same are called "The Bill
of
> Rights", and specifically address certain freedoms our government is not
> allowed to restrict. An online copy is here:
>
> http://www.nara.gov/exhall/charters/billrights/billrights.html
>
> These form such a cornerstone of our political culture that all you have
> to do is mention "the First Amendment" and people will know you are
talking
> about freedom of speech, press, and/or religion. "I plead the Fifth" is a
> common expression meaning "I am not going to answer that, because it might
> get me in trouble".
>
> Whenever there is a major public criminal crisis, there are always those
> who advocate restricting these rights in the name of "security" or "need".
> They do not seem to understand that the worst kind of crime is that
> inflicted by your own government against you.
>
> In this case, we can expect people to claim:
>
> - We should punish people without a trial, or even evidence
> - We should punish people who have committed no crimes
> - We should close our borders
> - Police should be able to search anyone at any time without a warrant
> - Police should be able to monitor private communications without a
> warrant
>
> Any of the above would violate the Bill of Rights.
>
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