This is exactly why I was concerned, and why I shared
the information.
Again, you can agree or disagree with the actions of
congress, and take action or not yourself. I will not
try to sway anyone's opinion. Just wanted to give any
of you that had not heard about this to form an
opinion of your own.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Borndale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Senate votes to permit warrantless
Net-wiretaps, Carnivore us e
It is scary, innit? That is how the terrorists
*really* win. Think about it. The government now
wants to take away one of the ideas that this country
was founded upon.
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K.Borndale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -home email
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----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Moore
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Senate votes to permit warrantless
Net-wiretaps, Carnivore us e
DITTO!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marr, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:19 AM
Subject: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless
Net-wiretaps, Carnivore us e
> It is a very scary thing to be willing to give away
any of our civil
rights.
> Freedom is a very fragile thing and once taken
requires a revolution to
get
> it back.
>
> I agree that we need to do something but history
shows that government
tends
> to get more restrictive not less.
>
> We could justify all sorts of infringments how about
police roadblocks
every
> 2 city blocks that requires you to show id and have
papers giving you the
> right to travel to the local grocery store? That
would sure put a stop to
a
> whole lot of crime including terrorism. But are we
willing to go to that
> extent? Obviously we would not but I ask you why we
would not. After all
if
> I had nothing to hide then I should have no problem
with a little
> inconvience if it means no crime. Of course the
criminal would still find
a
> way to do his/her thing but we will just overlook
that fact.
>
> My point is simply that I agree that we need to do
something but it is a
> very scary thing to be willing to give up freedom
for any reason.
>
> Just my $.02 worth (take it or leave it)
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:50 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless
Net-wiretaps, Carnivore
> use
>
>
> Here here!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:53 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Senate votes to permit warrantless
Net-wiretaps, Carnivore
> use
>
>
> Write my Congressman about what? About implementing
laws designed to
> protect us at the cost of a minor infringement on my
civil rights? What
> are they doing that your employer or network admins,
who could use
> benign e-mails in a much more malicious manner,
don't already do. While
> I don't like it that we have go to these lengths, I
feel it's necessary
> for our National Security. Besides, I've nothing to
hide and if I had
> something to hide I would not be likely to send it
via e-mail. Maybe,
> just maybe, if we had this in place a while back,
some 6,000+ people,
> some of which may have even been on this list, would
still be with us.
> It's a dangerous world out there, which requires
unpleasant measures.
> GOD BLESS AMERICA.
>
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