> You would think I said I eat kittens. ;)
There's an app for that. -sc From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Goodness. You would think I said I eat kittens. ;) I did say personally. I didn't say there was no use for them. Certain job functions they are extremely usefully. Our marketing guys use them for presentations and email for example. Unfortunately; I still need a laptop for certain things...... Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And there are folks who do media creation and review for which they are 10x more convenient than a laptop. The org that we have a support contract with is doing a medical survey involving 100,000 subjects, and they are far more useful as a "clipboard replacement" than a laptop would be. Just because you don't find them to be a value proposition doesn't mean there aren't very valid use cases for them. -sc From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Well? I can't seem to justify $700 for en email reader and a game player for my kid. If somebody gave me one, I would use it. Anecdotally speaking, I see iPad more in kids hands then I do the adults. Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full "computer", and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares If you insist on using a tablet exactly as a PC (or even a laptop), then you'll be sorely disappointed. Most people who adopt them (tablets) use the new tool differently from the old tool. It's not like most people with laptops in a corporate environment are actually using a reasonable percentage of its inherent advantages. Additionally, many people are using their smart phones which are even more inconvenient than tablets, to accomplish some of the work they used to perform on PCs. Tablets give them a *richer* experience, from this standpoint, hence the growing adoption rate. I'm pretty sure that is we substitute "PC" for "tablet" and go back 16-20 years, there'd be no distinguishing the arguments being used. Yet, here we are. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > You're still mostly wooshing here. > > Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often > appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know > that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the "data processing" > department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to > the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC > networks. > And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of > administrators are crunching these numbers right now... > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture >> > of >> > days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. >> >> Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server >> administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the >> minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. >> >> > The current generation >> > of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since >> > then. >> >> Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. >> >> > Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they >> > believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing >> > content! >> >> The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show >> is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger >> screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still >> need the servers on the back end. 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