This all sounds vaguely familiar... is it September of 2010?
-sc From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Actually, to be absolutely candid, it is a discussion about making bold assertions without being able to to support them. Because one doesn't find utility in a device doesn't mean that others can't find utility. To say something is crippled because it meet some arbitrary requirement is silly. On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, James Hill <j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au> wrote: > Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side of the discussion. > > > > Horses for courses. > > > > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > I don't think you'll find many of the posts here are from proponents who are suggesting such. > > > > The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are extremely well suited. But that doesn't obviate the need for a full-blown PC or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. > > > > -sc > > > > From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. > > > > Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn't imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. > > > > > > From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. > > YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. > > Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. > > ________________________________ > > From: Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> > > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 > > To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. > > I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. > > The converse isn't true. > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger <gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. > > Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. > > ________________________________ > > From: James Hill <j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au> > > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +0000 > > To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > And to me. The backspace key is my friend! > > > > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > >>>The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. > > To you. > > ASB > > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker > > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... > > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not > tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other > digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, > given the cost differential - once you take into account the > peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional > laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the > supposed advantages. > > Kurt > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >> You're still mostly wooshing here. >> >> Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often >> appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know >> that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the "data processing" >> department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to >> the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC >> networks. >> And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of >> administrators are crunching these numbers right now... >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture >>> > of >>> > days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. >>> >>> Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server >>> administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the >>> minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. >>> >>> > The current generation >>> > of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since >>> > then. >>> >>> Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. >>> >>> > Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they >>> > believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing >>> > content! >>> >>> The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show >>> is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger >>> screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still >>> need the servers on the back end. 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