" Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times."
Sounds like our production environment! -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin