Thanks. I'll let ya know.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 2:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
server arrived today...)
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Michael B. Smith
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http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 2:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
server arrived today...)
I've, ahem, found a copy of the iso. Do you have an sha or md5 hash of the iso
you have so I can verify that the version I've "found" isn't tainted? :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
server arrived today...)
My bad. You are right. MSDN only.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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-----Original Message-----
From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
server arrived today...)
I'd love to be wrong on this, but I don't think technet subscribers can get it.
At least, I can't find it on technet and this link seems to indicate MSDN only.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/xuzonne/archive/2011/09/20/windows-server-8-developer-build-preview-available-for-download.aspx
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
server arrived today...)
Any technet or msdn subscriber can download the Win8 Server preview.
The EULA seems to disagree in places with my MVP NDA, so I'm going to only
speak in broad generalities. But I'm guessing that most MSDN or Technet
subscribers could tell you anything you want to know. :-P
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
server arrived today...)
I've read a bit about what Server 8 (And the new Hyper-V) is going to offer...
and it sounds amazing. If people are able to share more info on it, I'm looking
forward to this new setup.
If it's under NDA, I understand and await patiently for the details to emerge
as they should.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
----- Original Message -----
From: Crawford, Scott
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 04 Nov 2011
09:27:29 -0700
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
server arrived today...)
> The server 8 stuff sounds like it will automate some of this and
> largely obviate the need for clustering at all. Have you had a chance
> to play with it at all?
>
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
> Mini server arrived today...)
>
> I have not yet clustered my Hyper-V hosts, but I do have an automatic
> backup running from one to the other (and vice-versa).
>
> I do intend to reformat and reinstall with Win8 and do shared-nothing
> clustering.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> From: Andrew S. Baker
> [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]>
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
> Mini server arrived today...)
>
> As I learned painfully at home last year. :)
>
> Not that I didn't know, of course, but that sort of thing is supposed
> to happen to everyone else (or so the story goes) ASB
>
> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
>
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jonathan Link
> <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Instead of going (5 or 10) to 1, I suggest (5 or 10) to 2, though. At
> least you have some functionality if you have physical failure of a host.
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Boeck
> <netadmin...@gmail.com<mailto:netadmin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines
> on a single HOST server.
> That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>> wrote:
> So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power
> is actually needed for most services?
>
> I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They
> are doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard
> Active Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it makes me
> wonder:
> Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom?
>
> Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM,
> fast HD or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155
> Celeron) handle most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka,
> could I be getting away with less expensive hardware to do the same duties?
>
> I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better bet.
> Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option.
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Ens
> [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> sunbelt-software.com>]
> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> 11:26:11 -0700
> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
>
>
> > I wouldn't. Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU.
> > Good
> for
> > some things, and not for others. I think the NEO is pretty
> > affordable
> too.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote:
> >
> > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon.
> > >
> > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC?
> > >
> > >
> > > --Matt Ross
> > > Ephrata School District
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Steve Ens
> > > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
>
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > >
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > 10:40:10 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough. great for everyday use,
> > > > but
> > > wouldn't
> > > > want to run Autocad on it. For media playout it runs fine too.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link
> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I left out similar specs... Isnt that an Atom processor?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens
> <stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link
> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> It's a nice form factor. Not aware of anything that is
> > > > >>> quite that
> > > small
> > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum
> <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our
> > > > >>>> district,
> > and
> > > > >>>> they run great."
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross
> [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>]
> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM
> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a
> > > > >>>> much
> > > slicker
> > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it,
> > > > >>>> just
> > > install
> > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people
> > > > >>>> in
> our
> > > > >>>> district, and they run great.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh
> > > > >>>> [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>]
>
> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>>
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the
> > > > >>>> > Apple VM
> > > tech
> > > > is
> > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously?
> Single
> > > NIC,
> > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode?
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't
> > > > >>>> > mind
> > > playing
> > > > >>>> > around with at home.
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > >>>> >
> <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote:
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major
> > > > >>>> > > > issues
> > with
> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server
> > > > >>>> > > room. It's
> > > doing
> > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff.
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop.
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia
> > > > >>>> > >
> [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com<mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com>]
>
> > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > >
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700
> > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major
> > > > >>>> > > > issues
> > with
> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > >>>> > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > >>>> > > >
> <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote:
> > > > >>>> > > >
>
> > > > >>>> > > > > My main computers is a Mac Mini. I love this little
> thing.
> > > It's
> > > > >>>> > > > > quite
> > > > >>>> > > the
> > > > >>>> > > > > great piece of hardware.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > I have it running a VM of Windows 7, and I do my
> > > > >>>> > > > > windows
> > > stuff
> > > > >>>> > > > > on
> > > > >>>> > that.
> > > > >>>> > > > > It'd dedicated to a second screen.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > You got the server, so no DVD drive. Did you get it
> > > > >>>> > > > > with
> a
> > > > >>>> second HD?
> > > > >>>> > > If
> > > > >>>> > > > > not, you may want to consider adding one. (There is
> > > > >>>> > > > > space
> > in
> > > > >>>> > > > > there for
> > > > >>>> > > a
> > > > >>>> > > > > second 2.5" drive.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> > > > > Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> > > > > From: David Lum
> > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.or
> > > > >>>> > > > > g>]
>
> > > > >>>> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > >>>> > > > > Sent: Wed, 02 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> > > > > 15:01:50 -0700
> > > > >>>> > > > > Subject: RE: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Hell I dunno, I have this thing on my desk and
> > > > >>>> > > > > > when it
> > > > reboots
> > > > >>>> > > > > > it's
> > > > >>>> > > like
> > > > >>>> > > > > > R2D2 singing at me "look I know you're there, now
> > > > >>>> > > > > > shut
> > > up".
> > > > >>>> > > > > > LOL
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > It surfs the Internet just like a PC, so there's
> > > > >>>> > > > > > hope
> for
> > > > this
> > > > >>>> > > > > > thing
> > > > >>>> > > > yet.
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:
> > > michealespin...@gmail.com<mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>]
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:49 PM
>
> > > > >>>> > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > So you now have a Mac Mini [server] and a [mini]
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Mac
> > Mini?
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > --
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Espi
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, David Lum
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org><mailto:david.lum@nwea.o
> rg<mailto:david....@nwea.org>>>
> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > > > > > The thing is the size of portable CD player.
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Opening
> the
> > > > >>>> > > > > > manual (out
> > > > >>>> > > of
> > > > >>>> > > > > > curiosity, not like I RTFM and with Mac why
> > > > >>>> > > > > > should I
> have
> > > > >>>> > > > > > to?), the
> > > > >>>> > > > cover
> > > > >>>> > > > > > says simply "Hello." And the opening page says:
> > > > >>>> > > > > > "Congratulations,
> > > > >>>> > you
> > > > >>>> > > > and
> > > > >>>> > > > > > your Mac Mini were made for each other".
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > No, we weren't, you are a necessary evil you damn
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Mac
> > > Mini...
> > > > >>>> > > > > > David Lum
>
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