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*ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am not a MSDN subscriber and it let me grab it...YMMV > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Michael B. Smith > <mich...@smithcons.com>wrote: > >> My bad. You are right. MSDN only. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael B. Smith >> Consultant and Exchange MVP >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:29 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini >> server arrived today...) >> >> I'd love to be wrong on this, but I don't think technet subscribers can >> get it. At least, I can't find it on technet and this link seems to >> indicate MSDN only. >> >> >> http://blogs.technet.com/b/xuzonne/archive/2011/09/20/windows-server-8-developer-build-preview-available-for-download.aspx >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:03 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini >> server arrived today...) >> >> Any technet or msdn subscriber can download the Win8 Server preview. >> >> The EULA seems to disagree in places with my MVP NDA, so I'm going to >> only speak in broad generalities. But I'm guessing that most MSDN or >> Technet subscribers could tell you anything you want to know. :-P >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael B. Smith >> Consultant and Exchange MVP >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:36 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini >> server arrived today...) >> >> I've read a bit about what Server 8 (And the new Hyper-V) is going to >> offer... and it sounds amazing. If people are able to share more info on >> it, I'm looking forward to this new setup. >> >> If it's under NDA, I understand and await patiently for the details to >> emerge as they should. >> >> >> --Matt Ross >> Ephrata School District >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Crawford, Scott >> [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >> Sent: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 >> 09:27:29 -0700 >> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini >> server arrived today...) >> >> >> > The server 8 stuff sounds like it will automate some of this and >> > largely obviate the need for clustering at all. Have you had a chance >> > to play with it at all? >> > >> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] >> > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:19 AM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac >> > Mini server arrived today...) >> > >> > I have not yet clustered my Hyper-V hosts, but I do have an automatic >> > backup running from one to the other (and vice-versa). >> > >> > I do intend to reformat and reinstall with Win8 and do shared-nothing >> > clustering. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Michael B. Smith >> > Consultant and Exchange MVP >> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com >> > >> > From: Andrew S. Baker >> > [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]> >> > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:12 PM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac >> > Mini server arrived today...) >> > >> > As I learned painfully at home last year. :) >> > >> > Not that I didn't know, of course, but that sort of thing is supposed >> > to happen to everyone else (or so the story goes) ASB >> > >> > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker >> > >> > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jonathan Link >> > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > Instead of going (5 or 10) to 1, I suggest (5 or 10) to 2, though. At >> > least you have some functionality if you have physical failure of a >> host. >> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Boeck >> > <netadmin...@gmail.com<mailto:netadmin...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines >> > on a single HOST server. >> > That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross >> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>> wrote: >> > So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power >> > is actually needed for most services? >> > >> > I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They >> > are doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard >> > Active Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it >> makes me wonder: >> > Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom? >> > >> > Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM, >> > fast HD or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155 >> > Celeron) handle most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka, >> > could I be getting away with less expensive hardware to do the same >> duties? >> > >> > I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better >> bet. >> > Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option. >> > --Matt Ross >> > Ephrata School District >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Steve Ens >> > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>] >> > >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. >> > sunbelt-software.com>] >> > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >> > 11:26:11 -0700 >> > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > >> > >> > > I wouldn't. Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU. >> > > Good >> > for >> > > some things, and not for others. I think the NEO is pretty >> > > affordable >> > too. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross >> > > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote: >> > > >> > > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon. >> > > > >> > > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > --Matt Ross >> > > > Ephrata School District >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: Steve Ens >> > > > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>] >> > >> > > > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > >> > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. >> > sunbelt-software.com>] >> > > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >> > > > 10:40:10 -0700 >> > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough. great for everyday use, >> > > > > but >> > > > wouldn't >> > > > > want to run Autocad on it. For media playout it runs fine too. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link >> > > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > I left out similar specs... Isnt that an Atom processor? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens >> > <stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link >> > > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >>> It's a nice form factor. Not aware of anything that is >> > > > > >>> quite that >> > > > small >> > > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head. >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum >> > <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our >> > > > > >>>> district, >> > > and >> > > > > >>>> they run great." >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why? >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- >> > > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross >> > [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>] >> > > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM >> > > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a >> > > > > >>>> much >> > > > slicker >> > > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though. >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it, >> > > > > >>>> just >> > > > install >> > > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people >> > > > > >>>> in >> > our >> > > > > >>>> district, and they run great. >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> --Matt Ross >> > > > > >>>> Ephrata School District >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh >> > > > > >>>> [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>] >> > >> > > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > > >>>> >> > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. >> > sunbelt-software.com>] >> > > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >> > > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700 >> > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the >> > > > > >>>> > Apple VM >> > > > tech >> > > > > is >> > > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously? >> > Single >> > > > NIC, >> > > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode? >> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't >> > > > > >>>> > mind >> > > > playing >> > > > > >>>> > around with at home. >> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross >> > > > > >>>> > >> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote: >> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major >> > > > > >>>> > > > issues >> > > with >> > > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop? >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server >> > > > > >>>> > > room. It's >> > > > doing >> > > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff. >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop. >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross >> > > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com<mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com>] >> > >> > > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. >> > sunbelt-software.com>] >> > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >> > > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700 >> > > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major >> > > > > >>>> > > > issues >> > > with >> > > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop? >> > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Matthew W. Ross >> > > > > >>>> > > > >> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>wrote: >> > > > > >>>> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > My main computers is a Mac Mini. I love this little >> > thing. >> > > > It's >> > > > > >>>> > > > > quite >> > > > > >>>> > > the >> > > > > >>>> > > > > great piece of hardware. >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > I have it running a VM of Windows 7, and I do my >> > > > > >>>> > > > > windows >> > > > stuff >> > > > > >>>> > > > > on >> > > > > >>>> > that. >> > > > > >>>> > > > > It'd dedicated to a second screen. >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > You got the server, so no DVD drive. Did you get it >> > > > > >>>> > > > > with >> > a >> > > > > >>>> second HD? >> > > > > >>>> > > If >> > > > > >>>> > > > > not, you may want to consider adding one. (There is >> > > > > >>>> > > > > space >> > > in >> > > > > >>>> > > > > there for >> > > > > >>>> > > a >> > > > > >>>> > > > > second 2.5" drive. >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > --Matt Ross >> > > > > >>>> > > > > Ephrata School District >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > >>>> > > > > From: David Lum >> > > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.or >> > > > > >>>> > > > > g>] >> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris. >> > sunbelt-software.com>] >> > > > > >>>> > > > > Sent: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 >> > > > > >>>> > > > > 15:01:50 -0700 >> > > > > >>>> > > > > Subject: RE: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Hell I dunno, I have this thing on my desk and >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > when it >> > > > > reboots >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > it's >> > > > > >>>> > > like >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > R2D2 singing at me "look I know you're there, now >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > shut >> > > > up". >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > LOL >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > It surfs the Internet just like a PC, so there's >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > hope >> > for >> > > > > this >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > thing >> > > > > >>>> > > > yet. >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto: >> > > > michealespin...@gmail.com<mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>] >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:49 PM >> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived >> today... >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > So you now have a Mac Mini [server] and a [mini] >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Mac >> > > Mini? >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > -- >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Espi >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, David Lum >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org><mailto:david.lum@nwea.o >> > rg<mailto:david....@nwea.org>>> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > The thing is the size of portable CD player. >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Opening >> > the >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > manual (out >> > > > > >>>> > > of >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > curiosity, not like I RTFM and with Mac why >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > should I >> > have >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > to?), the >> > > > > >>>> > > > cover >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > says simply "Hello." And the opening page says: >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > "Congratulations, >> > > > > >>>> > you >> > > > > >>>> > > > and >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > your Mac Mini were made for each other". >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > No, we weren't, you are a necessary evil you damn >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Mac >> > > > Mini... >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > David Lum >> > >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> > >> > --- >> > To manage subscriptions click here: >> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> > or send an email to >> > listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbelt >> > software.com> >> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> > >> > --- >> > To manage subscriptions click here: >> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> > or send an email to >> > listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbelt >> > software.com> >> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> > >> > --- >> > To manage subscriptions click here: >> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ < >> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ < >> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
