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Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:51:36 To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>Subject: Re: Infrastructure Specialist defined - was: OT - ugh! Simpler: "If it passes electrons, it's yours." As opposed to IT Generalist: "If it passes electrons or whines when frustrated, it's yours." Kurt On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:49, Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Long but here's a snip of the description... > > Job Summary > The primary role of the temporary Production Infrastructure Specialist is > the support of production infrastructure systems across multiple operating > units within the business. This includes client-facing application servers, > local fileservers/storage, and management of the local data centers. In > addition to daily support of systems this role will undertake two long-term > projects: 1. Coordinate migration of production servers from local > Active-Directory to company Corporate Active Directory 2. Organize data > archives and research/implement a modern, replacement archiving system. > Job Responsibilities > • Address daily support tickets regarding end-user permissions and file > archiving and restores from nearline archive and disaster-recovery backup > systems > • Re-architect the file archive systems to make them more efficient, > functional, easier to manage, and organized, replacing the current system if > necessary > • Coordinate the migration from a local Active Directory into the company > global Active directory for all employee-facing systems > • Assist senior Infrastructure Administrator with client facing and > production infrastructure systems and services, ensuring both operating at > an optimal level, with high availability and recoverability. > • Works independently toward goals and objectives seeks additional review on > unusual assignments. > • Solves complex problems and conducts analysis of the costs and benefits of > modifying procedures increase effectiveness of a department. > • Develops cross-work group partnerships and initiates new and productive > internal and external alliances. > • Extensive technical expertise and knowledge of other related business > disciplines/processes. > > Qualifications / Requirements > ServerSupport: > · Due to extensive use of Red Hat Enterprise Linux on production servers, a > strong background in Linux server administration is required. > · General Server Support: Level 1 & 2 Windows, Unix/Linux, Mac OS X Server > Support (Rack Servers, IBM, Dell, Apple, Cisco, Configure Shares & Security) > · Level 1 & 2 VMWare Support (vSphere 5 Enterprise, vCenter Server 5) > experience preferred > SAN Support: > · Strong familiarity with enterprise data archiving systems and disaster > recovery backup systems. uses Flashnet for data archive and Commvault for > Disaster Recovery backups > · Level 1 & 2 SAN Storage Support (EMC CX300, EMC AX100, IBM N3400 > · Level 1 & 2 Fibre Channel Switch Support (Cisco MDS 9134, McData ) > Directory Service Support: > · Level 1 & 2 Active Directory Support > · Create Accounts and Set Permissions > > Personal Performance Factors > · Integrity/Ethics - deals with others in a straightforward and honest > manner, is accountable for actions, maintains confidentiality, supports > company values, and conveys good news and bad. > · Perseverance - targets and achieves results, sets challenging goals, > prioritizes tasks, overcomes obstacles, accepts accountability, sets team > standards and responsibilities, provides leadership/motivation. > · Adaptability/Flexibility - Adapts to change, is open to new ideas, takes > on new responsibilities, handles pressure, and adjusts plans to meet > changing needs. > · Teamwork - Meets all team deadlines and responsibilities, listens to > others and values opinions, helps team leader to meet goals, welcomes > newcomers and promotes a team atmosphere. > · Initiative - Tackles problems and takes independent action, seeks out new > responsibilities, acts on opportunities, generates new ideas, practices > self-development. > > > ________________________________ > From: David Lum <david....@nwea.org> > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 11:51 AM > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > Define infrastructure specialist.. > > From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 8:47 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > > Very well put on both. > > So, not to hijack the thread, but speaking of wages, does 40 - 43 per hour > sound reasonable in the Midwest for a 2nd level infrastructure specialist ? > Assuming if you're placed through a staffing firm, they are charging double > that and paying the person half the client rate. > > As Paul said, it seems like there are wage adjustments in effect from what > was paid in the past. > > ________________________________ > From: "Maglinger, Paul" <pmaglin...@scvl.com> > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:29 AM > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > One other thing that I think we may see is adjustments in wages. Starting > positions may not offer the same wages as they did in the past in an attempt > for companies to lower costs. I also see what I perceive as attempts by > OEMs to woo companies to outsource more and more services to them (such as > HP) rather than encourage companies to have well-trained engineers. Of > course if you pay peanuts you're still going to get monkeys, unless someone > can't afford to eat anything else. > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 7:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > That was well put, Ken. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:39 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > I think our opinions are coloured by our industry and in particular working > in (small scale) systems administrator, which is more of a trade than a > profession. > > For many other professions: civil engineering, medicine, accounting - there > is no way you'd get anywhere in most countries without a degree. There is > simply too much established theory in those fields that you just have to > know in order to be useful. Systems engineering might be a bit different > because basic theory and principles are not as well established. Software > and electrical engineering are perhaps more established, and there are many > algorithms, principles and methodologies (like lifecycle management, project > management) etc that a structured course such as a degree can help you with. > > That said, systems engineering will change to. Organisations (starting with > the biggest, but I suspect it'll eventually make its way down to the smaller > ones) are looking for structured, repeatable, predictable delivery. They > outsource. They get x service for $y within z minutes/hours/days. And the > companies that provide it (HP/EDS, CSC, IBM, Satyam, Wipro, etc.) all have > regulated processes, backed by technologies (invariably built upon ITIL at > the moment). If you want to get ahead in this type of world, there'll have > to be some theory that you need to learn, because deep technical skills are > for architecture/design/implementation, and not operations (except for those > in high severity incident management). Operations is about following > processes, managing expectations, and executing structured/tested change > requests. > > Cheers > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] > Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 3:57 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > Indeed. > > Certs and degrees are used by people who aren't technical and don't know > what to ask let alone evaluate. > > I have seen talent from prestigious schools and I have seen lunkheads from > prestigious schools. > > The universities were setting rather high expectations however. A friend > used to handle the college new hires and he said he had to talk a few off > the ledge because they weren't VPs inside of 6 months. > > Thanks, > Mathew > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:31 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > > In my personal experience, I haven't seen any correlation between any > degree/certification and actual aptitude/knowledge/value. They're certainly > not less likely, but don't appear to be significantly more, either. > > I have, however, seen correlation between degree/certification and > hiring/pay. > > I suspect this is mainly because it's easier to quantify. "Does he have a > degree?" is an easier question to answer than "How good is he?" > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jeff Brown <jbr...@webcoindustries.com> > wrote: >> Those are some seriously sour grapes you are sucking on. I had a boss >> who said it this way, "the degree proves he/she can finish something". >> There are no guarantees that anyone is a good or outstanding employee, >> at least there are SEVERAL examples shared here to point out that >> degrees or certs don't guarantee competence. Anyone who's done IT for >> more than a few years can provide additional examples, probably good >> AND bad. (with or without degrees or certs). >> >> >> >> Your posts suggest that you think a degreed person is LESS likely to >> have competence.. sorry, that just sounds like sour grapes to me. >> >> >> >> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:49 AM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >> >> >> >> That isn't my observation. >> >> On Thursday, February 2, 2012, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com> >> wrote: >>> A college degree (usually) indicates that someone has obtained >>> certain literary, communication, and fact-finding skills that are >>> useful in the workplace. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:02 AM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >>> >>> >>> >>> Going to college opens doors. And it almost doesn't even matter what >>> the degree is in. I think it's like a secret handshake. It says "I >>> can navigate a byzantine bureaucracy and complete a series of tasks >>> without close supervision." >>> >>> >>> >>> I might be wrong, but I think it's always there in the subconscious. >>> I had doors open for me that were previously shut by completing a >>> degree (my degree is not in IT, but in accountancy). >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:29 AM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote: >>> >>> "This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." >>> >>> Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only >>> guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech >>> industry? >>> Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand that >>> thinking. >>> >>> It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying >>> "we changed our minds on our needs" or "we hired from inside". I've >>> heard of that kind of thing before - where what the person not >>> getting hired wasn't told what was really happening. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>> Subject: RE: OT - ugh! >>> >>> Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect >>> position for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like >>> interview #6 or 7 in the process. I had been talking with the >>> executive for over 45 minutes when "all of a sudden" he says "Oh, I'm >>> sorry I didn't realize you had no college degree. This position requires >>> a degree. Sorry. Click." >>> >>> I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) >>> >>> >>> Carl Webster >>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional >>> http://www.CarlWebster.com >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] >>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>>> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >>>> >>>> Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very >>>> strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact >>>> that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER >>>> ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the >>>> offer, period, much less before total background check. I believe >>>> that I can fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a >>>> varied background which would include more than one job over a >>>> decade. I think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job >>>> because it sounds to me that the organization isn't of the highest >>>> quality, if you catch my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best >>>> in spite of your best efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did >>>> you vet them! It's also obvious that they don't recognize talent when >>>> they see it! >>>> >>>> Murray >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: James Hill >>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>>> Subject: RE: OT - ugh! >>>> >>>> I feel for you. >>>> >>>> But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can >>>> offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you were >>>> employed by them. >>>> >>>> You are better off with an employer that shares your values. >>>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com] >>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 9:52 AM >>> >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>>> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >>>> >>>> "Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues." >>>> >>>> Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, >>>> no project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff >>>> treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I >>>> stop the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would >>>> do it), I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management >>>> and stop the fires (also gave >>>> details.) >>>> >>>> I guess they rather have the fires... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > That makes no sense - why do they care where yo >>> >>> >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> >> This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential >> and intended solely for the use of the addressee. 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