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-----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Infrastructure Specialist defined - was: OT - ugh! Simpler: "If it passes electrons, it's yours." As opposed to IT Generalist: "If it passes electrons or whines when frustrated, it's yours." Kurt On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:49, Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Long but here's a snip of the description... > > Job Summary > The primary role of the temporary Production Infrastructure Specialist > is the support of production infrastructure systems across multiple > operating units within the business. This includes client-facing > application servers, local fileservers/storage, and management of the > local data centers. In addition to daily support of systems this role > will undertake two long-term > projects: 1. Coordinate migration of production servers from local > Active-Directory to company Corporate Active Directory 2. Organize > data archives and research/implement a modern, replacement archiving system. > Job Responsibilities > . Address daily support tickets regarding end-user permissions and > file archiving and restores from nearline archive and > disaster-recovery backup systems . Re-architect the file archive > systems to make them more efficient, functional, easier to manage, and > organized, replacing the current system if necessary . Coordinate the > migration from a local Active Directory into the company global Active > directory for all employee-facing systems . Assist senior > Infrastructure Administrator with client facing and production > infrastructure systems and services, ensuring both operating at an > optimal level, with high availability and recoverability. > . Works independently toward goals and objectives seeks additional > review on unusual assignments. > . Solves complex problems and conducts analysis of the costs and > benefits of modifying procedures increase effectiveness of a department. > . Develops cross-work group partnerships and initiates new and > productive internal and external alliances. > . Extensive technical expertise and knowledge of other related > business disciplines/processes. > > Qualifications / Requirements > ServerSupport: > · Due to extensive use of Red Hat Enterprise Linux on production > servers, a strong background in Linux server administration is required. > · General Server Support: Level 1 & 2 Windows, Unix/Linux, Mac OS X > Server Support (Rack Servers, IBM, Dell, Apple, Cisco, Configure > Shares & Security) · Level 1 & 2 VMWare Support (vSphere 5 Enterprise, > vCenter Server 5) experience preferred SAN Support: > · Strong familiarity with enterprise data archiving systems and > disaster recovery backup systems. uses Flashnet for data archive and > Commvault for Disaster Recovery backups · Level 1 & 2 SAN Storage > Support (EMC CX300, EMC AX100, IBM N3400 · Level 1 & 2 Fibre Channel > Switch Support (Cisco MDS 9134, McData ) Directory Service Support: > · Level 1 & 2 Active Directory Support · Create Accounts and Set > Permissions > > Personal Performance Factors > · Integrity/Ethics - deals with others in a straightforward and > honest manner, is accountable for actions, maintains confidentiality, > supports company values, and conveys good news and bad. > · Perseverance - targets and achieves results, sets challenging > goals, prioritizes tasks, overcomes obstacles, accepts accountability, > sets team standards and responsibilities, provides leadership/motivation. > · Adaptability/Flexibility - Adapts to change, is open to new ideas, > takes on new responsibilities, handles pressure, and adjusts plans to > meet changing needs. > · Teamwork - Meets all team deadlines and responsibilities, listens > to others and values opinions, helps team leader to meet goals, > welcomes newcomers and promotes a team atmosphere. > · Initiative - Tackles problems and takes independent action, seeks > out new responsibilities, acts on opportunities, generates new ideas, > practices self-development. > > > ________________________________ > From: David Lum <david....@nwea.org> > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 11:51 AM > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > Define infrastructure specialist.. > > From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 8:47 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > > Very well put on both. > > So, not to hijack the thread, but speaking of wages, does 40 - 43 per > hour sound reasonable in the Midwest for a 2nd level infrastructure > specialist ? > Assuming if you're placed through a staffing firm, they are charging > double that and paying the person half the client rate. > > As Paul said, it seems like there are wage adjustments in effect from > what was paid in the past. > > ________________________________ > From: "Maglinger, Paul" <pmaglin...@scvl.com> > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:29 AM > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > One other thing that I think we may see is adjustments in wages. > Starting positions may not offer the same wages as they did in the > past in an attempt for companies to lower costs. I also see what I > perceive as attempts by OEMs to woo companies to outsource more and > more services to them (such as > HP) rather than encourage companies to have well-trained engineers. > Of course if you pay peanuts you're still going to get monkeys, unless > someone can't afford to eat anything else. > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 7:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > That was well put, Ken. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:39 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > I think our opinions are coloured by our industry and in particular > working in (small scale) systems administrator, which is more of a > trade than a profession. > > For many other professions: civil engineering, medicine, accounting - > there is no way you'd get anywhere in most countries without a degree. > There is simply too much established theory in those fields that you > just have to know in order to be useful. Systems engineering might be > a bit different because basic theory and principles are not as well > established. Software and electrical engineering are perhaps more > established, and there are many algorithms, principles and > methodologies (like lifecycle management, project > management) etc that a structured course such as a degree can help you with. > > That said, systems engineering will change to. Organisations (starting > with the biggest, but I suspect it'll eventually make its way down to > the smaller > ones) are looking for structured, repeatable, predictable delivery. > They outsource. They get x service for $y within z minutes/hours/days. > And the companies that provide it (HP/EDS, CSC, IBM, Satyam, Wipro, > etc.) all have regulated processes, backed by technologies (invariably > built upon ITIL at the moment). If you want to get ahead in this type > of world, there'll have to be some theory that you need to learn, > because deep technical skills are for > architecture/design/implementation, and not operations (except for > those in high severity incident management). Operations is about > following processes, managing expectations, and executing structured/tested > change requests. > > Cheers > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] > Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 3:57 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > Indeed. > > Certs and degrees are used by people who aren't technical and don't > know what to ask let alone evaluate. > > I have seen talent from prestigious schools and I have seen lunkheads > from prestigious schools. > > The universities were setting rather high expectations however. A > friend used to handle the college new hires and he said he had to talk > a few off the ledge because they weren't VPs inside of 6 months. > > Thanks, > Mathew > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:31 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > > In my personal experience, I haven't seen any correlation between > any degree/certification and actual aptitude/knowledge/value. They're > certainly not less likely, but don't appear to be significantly more, either. > > I have, however, seen correlation between degree/certification and > hiring/pay. > > I suspect this is mainly because it's easier to quantify. "Does he > have a degree?" is an easier question to answer than "How good is he?" > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jeff Brown > <jbr...@webcoindustries.com> > wrote: >> Those are some seriously sour grapes you are sucking on. I had a >> boss who said it this way, "the degree proves he/she can finish something". >> There are no guarantees that anyone is a good or outstanding >> employee, at least there are SEVERAL examples shared here to point >> out that degrees or certs don't guarantee competence. Anyone who's >> done IT for more than a few years can provide additional examples, >> probably good AND bad. (with or without degrees or certs). >> >> >> >> Your posts suggest that you think a degreed person is LESS likely to >> have competence.. sorry, that just sounds like sour grapes to me. >> >> >> >> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:49 AM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >> >> >> >> That isn't my observation. >> >> On Thursday, February 2, 2012, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com> >> wrote: >>> A college degree (usually) indicates that someone has obtained >>> certain literary, communication, and fact-finding skills that are >>> useful in the workplace. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:02 AM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >>> >>> >>> >>> Going to college opens doors. And it almost doesn't even matter >>> what the degree is in. I think it's like a secret handshake. It >>> says "I can navigate a byzantine bureaucracy and complete a series >>> of tasks without close supervision." >>> >>> >>> >>> I might be wrong, but I think it's always there in the subconscious. >>> I had doors open for me that were previously shut by completing a >>> degree (my degree is not in IT, but in accountancy). >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:29 AM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote: >>> >>> "This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." >>> >>> Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only >>> guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the >>> tech industry? >>> Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand that >>> thinking. >>> >>> It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying >>> "we changed our minds on our needs" or "we hired from inside". I've >>> heard of that kind of thing before - where what the person not >>> getting hired wasn't told what was really happening. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>> Subject: RE: OT - ugh! >>> >>> Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect >>> position for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like >>> interview #6 or 7 in the process. I had been talking with the >>> executive for over 45 minutes when "all of a sudden" he says "Oh, >>> I'm sorry I didn't realize you had no college degree. This position >>> requires a degree. Sorry. Click." >>> >>> I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) >>> >>> >>> Carl Webster >>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional >>> http://www.CarlWebster.com >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] >>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>>> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >>>> >>>> Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very >>>> strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact >>>> that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've >>>> NEVER ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing >>>> the offer, period, much less before total background check. I >>>> believe that I can fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff >>>> that has a varied background which would include more than one job >>>> over a decade. I think you are fortunate that you didn't take the >>>> job because it sounds to me that the organization isn't of the >>>> highest quality, if you catch my drift. Sometimes things happen for >>>> the best in spite of your best efforts. They didn't vet you, but >>>> how well did you vet them! It's also obvious that they don't >>>> recognize talent when they see it! >>>> >>>> Murray >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: James Hill >>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>>> Subject: RE: OT - ugh! >>>> >>>> I feel for you. >>>> >>>> But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can >>>> offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you >>>> were employed by them. >>>> >>>> You are better off with an employer that shares your values. >>>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com] >>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 9:52 AM >>> >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>>> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >>>> >>>> "Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues." >>>> >>>> Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, >>>> no project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff >>>> treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I >>>> stop the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would >>>> do it), I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management >>>> and stop the fires (also gave >>>> details.) >>>> >>>> I guess they rather have the fires... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > That makes no sense - why do they care where yo >>> >>> >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> >> This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential >> and intended solely for the use of the addressee. 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