Either choice can be made to work without tremendous difficulty. But they do require different considerations.
You'll find enough folks on this list that subscribe to either perspective. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:30 PM, David Mazzaccaro < david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com> wrote: > Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things...**** > > 1) ALWAYS keep a single DC physical. You can certainly have virtual DCs, > but you must have at least 1 physical.**** > > 2) Virtualize everything you can. You don’t need any physical boxes at > all. Period.**** > > ** ** > > Thoughts?**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 11:55 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!**** > > ** ** > > *>> Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup > Hyper-V boxes individually? > * > No, you don't have to back them up individually. Lots of 3rd party > options here. > > > *>> No dependency on the domain being present which can put you in a > "fun" situation if you have to power everything off and on again. > * > Your Hyper-V server need not be a domain member.**** > > ** ** > > *ASB***** > > *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker***** > > *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…***** > > > > **** > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Paul Hutchings < > paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> wrote:**** > > I've only used VMware so I'm more than happy to be corrected here, but in > no particular order: > > Single ISO takes you from bare metal to working server. > No third party drivers needed for things like MPIO and NIC teaming. > Single management tool. > Single management server (vCenter) gives visibility to your entire VMware > infrastructure. > Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup Hyper-V > boxes individually? > No dependency on the domain being present which can put you in a "fun" > situation if you have to power everything off and on again. > > Outside of usability you then have: > > Pretty much any virtual appliance you care to name will come natively in > VMDK/OVF format > Tons of vCenter add-ins > > I'm very interested in Hyper-V with Windows Server 8 and for us the timing > falls nicely with our SAN and server refresh, but honestly the only reason > I can see for looking at moving would be license costs - VMware works out > expensive if you have more than a few hosts and want more than the basics. > ________________________________________ > From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] > Sent: 16 April 2012 3:39 PM**** > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > Is the consensus that VMware is easier to use than Hyper-V? > > I've only used the latter, so I can't judge. > > > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:36 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > I'd assume ease of use and market leader. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] > Sent: 16 April 2012 14:16 > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > Someone else asked about this, but I didn't see a reply (although Postini > frequently blocks messages from this list)... What factors led to you > choosing VMware over Hyper-V? > > > > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP > MIS Department > Taylor County School District > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Mazzaccaro > [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] > To: NT System Admin Issues > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] > Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 > 08:38:47 -0700 > Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > > > Just got the ok to move forward with VMware/Citrix/Domain upgrade. > > I have 10 physical servers, and it looks like this will be the > solution: > > > > 3 hosts: ($21k each) > > HP DL380 G7 E5660 > > Pair of 146 15k drives mirrored > > 196 G RAM <- this was $45k alone > > Quad port gig adapter > > > > 2 Switches: ($1,800 each) > > HP 2910 > > > > 1 SAN ($22,700) > > NetApp 2240 > > 12 x 600GB > > > > VSphere Essentials Plus ($5,200) > > > > 6 Windows licenses ($13,600): > > Server 2008 Datacenter > > > > Windows/Xenapp licenses ($26,000) > > > > $40k services > > Install/config SAN, switches, hosts, VMware, new Citrix farm, 2008 > > Domain upgrade, P2V existing servers > > > > Total: $185,000 > > > > Sound good?**** > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
